Lens storage in a hard case

duckster wrote in post #19348322
I did Google it, not really any clear definition, especially as it pertained to storage so I thought I would ask the person who used the term, that is all.

Check the thread at https://www.cloudynigh​ts.com …pelican-cases-outgassing/ or https://www.cloudynigh​ts.com …hat-will-not-harm-optics/.

John from PA wrote in post #19348352
Check the thread at https://www.cloudynigh​ts.com …pelican-cases-outgassing/ or https://www.cloudynigh​ts.com …hat-will-not-harm-optics/.

Those other internet threads have similar expertise as you'll find here, ranging from people who actually know something to people who think they know about the subject.

Capn Jack wrote in post #19348427
Those other internet threads have similar expertise as you'll find here, ranging from people who actually know something to people who think they know about the subject.

The OP stated “ Is there any problem with storing a lens in a hard case like a Pelican?”. He did not necessarily state it would be a Pelican, it would be like a Pelican. Hence the reason I mentioned a less expensive alternative. I’ll add now the comment that the Harbor Freight cases are, for the most part, from China. I had the optics on a jig transit (for machinery alignment) damaged while stored in a HB case. It was never determined if it was outgassing, or a breakdown in lubricant due to some excessive heat. But the company never used the HB cases again. We used Pelican moving forward and also some other US made and Mil-spec case. I don’t remember the “brand” as I retired about 10 years ago.

John from PA wrote in post #19348622
The OP stated “ Is there any problem with storing a lens in a hard case like a Pelican?”. He did not necessarily state it would be a Pelican, it would be like a Pelican. Hence the reason I mentioned a less expensive alternative. I’ll add now the comment that the Harbor Freight cases are, for the most part, from China. I had the optics on a jig transit (for machinery alignment) damaged while stored in a HB case. It was never determined if it was outgassing, or a breakdown in lubricant due to some excessive heat. But the company never used the HB cases again. We used Pelican moving forward and also some other US made and Mil-spec case. I don’t remember the “brand” as I retired about 10 years ago.

I understand what he wrote. You usually give some of the best advice in this forum, but sending people to those threads is a rare exception to your otherwise excellent contributions. I didn't see that you were pointing anyone to any good advice in those threads.

I found this comment amusing in one of your cited threads: "My sister who's a genetic chemist is fond of mentioning that margarine regardless of brand is only one molecule away from plastic. In fact it was made to feed and fatten cows, but the FDA wouldn't allow it. But they do allow it for human consumption."
Margarine was always intended as a butter substitute, and made of fats suspended in water, not too different than butter- just different fats from different sources. It shows the posters there aren't any more knowledgeable than those posting in most other forums.

A product being from China doesn't mean that it is poor quality. A Chinese manufacturer will produce something to whatever quality the buyer wants and is willing to pay for. I would say that the Harbor Freight cases are (probably) cheaper than a Pelican case, and you get what you pay for. I work with many Chinese people, even now, remotely, and other than the language barrier, I don't see any differences in the questions and research from people over here.

I have both Pelican and Apache cases that I use for different things. Just to clear that part up

https://www.sciencedir​ect.com …as%20patented%2​0in%201869.

"Background. Margarine was invented in France by Hippolyte Mèges-Mouries in response to Napoleon III's call for a cheap alternative to butter for French workers and for his armies in the Franco-Prussian war. The first margarine, consisting of beef tallow churned with milk, was patented in 1869."

Capn Jack wrote in post #19348635
I understand what he wrote. You usually give some of the best advice in this forum, but sending people to those threads is a rare exception to your otherwise excellent contributions. I didn't see that you were pointing anyone to any good advice in those threads.

Both of those threads were simply replies to a similar question. The replies are anecdotal yes, but a lot of what we say in these forums is anecdotal and based on personal circumstances. "duckster" is left to form his opinion and for his specific needs.

By the way the Mil spec cases we used years ago were made by the company Nanuk in Canada. Phenomenally good cases.

Wilt wrote in post #19348651
https://www.sciencedir​ect.com …as%20patented%2​0in%201869.

"Background. Margarine was invented in France by Hippolyte Mèges-Mouries in response to Napoleon III's call for a cheap alternative to butter for French workers and for his armies in the Franco-Prussian war. The first margarine, consisting of beef tallow churned with milk, was patented in 1869."

And generally made from vegetable oils in modern days. Just a different set of fats. In any case, like I said, margarine was made originally as a butter substitute.

Outgassing, moisture...I don't store camera equipment in cases.

I have a built-in cabinet with stainless steel shelves and a Goldenrod heater at the bottom where I store my equiipment. It only goes into a bag or case when I'm packing for a location job.

My camera bodies and smaller lenses are stored on a couple of shelves, the cases are just for the bigger lenses. I got them initially for transport but then got to wondering about the storage aspect.

the term is actually more often "off-gassing", when dealing with fumes, such as Teflon when cooking, and byproducts leaving fabrics such as carpets and furniture. I own a parrot so I have to be careful when bringing things into the home, as many of these fumes are toxic and can kill birds.

goalerjones wrote in post #19348696
the term is actually more often "off-gassing", when dealing with fumes, such as Teflon when cooking, and byproducts leaving fabrics such as carpets and furniture. I own a parrot so I have to be careful when bringing things into the home, as many of these fumes are toxic and can kill birds.

And I can imagine what our inhaling does over time...we may not die, but it isn't harmless and having zero effect.
I have surmised that the great increase of asthma in kids is due to the off-gassing occurring in our more tightly sealed homes, along with the increase in synthetic fibers in carpets, upholstery, drapes, flooring materials, etc.

Perfectly Frank wrote in post #19348245
I do outgassing after I've eaten Mexican food.

Hence….. Perfectly Frank…..