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May 07, 2022 14:41 |  #1

Evening all,

I'm looking for a program that is able to load up large batches of raw files for viewing and editing quickly, so I can check the images out quickly and delete what I don't need and edit what I do need.

At present, I have Lightroom 6 for general editing and Affinity for any extra editing.

As extra info, I cannot open my Canon R6 files straight to Lightroom 6 as it's not been updated to accept the new raw files, and when I try and run them directly through Affinity, it virtually slows the laptop to a standstill, it's so resource-hungry! So I have to convert the files in Adobe Converter and then open in LR6.

I'm looking for a one stop ship program that will accept the Canon R6 raw files straight from the SD card and can open to view,100s of files without freezing.

I don't mind buying a program as long as its not very expensive but please,anything but recommendations to go subscription with Adobe.

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May 07, 2022 15:03 |  #2

Canon-supplied DPP takes in the RAW files and uses the inherent embedded JPG preview created by the camera to initially view images. Skipping the building of previews by the RAW convertor saves lots of time.


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May 07, 2022 15:08 |  #3

I'm sure there are many but at the moment I'm using the Canon software. I plug the camera in, use EOS Utility to move the new images to a new folder on the HDD, and then use DPP to load that folder. I can flip through the images one by one and rate them before I ever edit. X means reject and 1-5 are ratings. I select all rejects and move to trash so I don't have to keep seeing them. You can nondestructively crop and adjust individually or in batches. It has color correction, sharpening, NR, highlight/shadow/curve​s etc. There are ways to filter on the rating and more that I haven't really dug into.

Can export to Photoshop, batch export, etc. Pretty sure it stores all edits separately from the raw file.

It does not seem to support tagging, so for instance I would love to be able to tag images with an athlete number and then filter by that, but I don't think I can.


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May 07, 2022 16:48 |  #4

Wilt wrote in post #19375385 (external link)
Canon-supplied DPP takes in the RAW files and uses the inherent embedded JPG preview created by the camera to initially view images. Skipping the building of previews by the RAW convertor saves lots of time.

Are you sure of that?

"By default, DPP opens the RAW file with the Picture Style as shot. "
https://snapshot.canon​-asia.com …igital-photo-professional (external link)




  
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May 07, 2022 16:51 |  #5

AntonLargiader wrote in post #19375391 (external link)
I'm sure there are many but at the moment I'm using the Canon software. I plug the camera in, use EOS Utility to move the new images to a new folder on the HDD, and then use DPP to load that folder. I can flip through the images one by one and rate them before I ever edit. X means reject and 1-5 are ratings. I select all rejects and move to trash so I don't have to keep seeing them. You can nondestructively crop and adjust individually or in batches. It has color correction, sharpening, NR, highlight/shadow/curve​s etc. There are ways to filter on the rating and more that I haven't really dug into.

Can export to Photoshop, batch export, etc. Pretty sure it stores all edits separately from the raw file.

It does not seem to support tagging, so for instance I would love to be able to tag images with an athlete number and then filter by that, but I don't think I can.

It can store 4 edit histories for each picture.
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May 07, 2022 17:00 |  #6

Capn Jack wrote in post #19375432 (external link)
Are you sure of that?

"By default, DPP opens the RAW file with the Picture Style as shot. "
https://snapshot.canon​-asia.com …igital-photo-professional (external link)

That may be the same thing. Seems to me the embedded JPEG from the camera would be the "Picture style as shot."


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May 07, 2022 17:01 as a reply to  @ Capn Jack's post |  #7

That's DPP Express which is different. It could work the same way, though.


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May 07, 2022 17:26 |  #8

AntonLargiader wrote in post #19375439 (external link)
That may be the same thing. Seems to me the embedded JPEG from the camera would be the "Picture style as shot."

The embedded JPEG would be the "picture style as shot", but the source said it was the RAW file that was opened.




  
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May 07, 2022 17:34 |  #9

AntonLargiader wrote in post #19375440 (external link)
That's DPP Express which is different. It could work the same way, though.

I'm pretty sure the link goes to a description of DPP. DPP Express is an app for iOS:
https://www.usa.canon.​com …hoto-professional-express (external link)

The link in my earlier post has these comments:
"Download the latest version of Digital Photo Professional here."
"Click here to learn about the DPP Express app*, available for compatible iPads and iPhones"

The only place DPP express was mentioned in that link was in the second comment.

I agree that both programs probably work the same way. It's easier to work from a common code library.




  
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May 07, 2022 17:57 |  #10

I simply followed that link and it specifically described DPP Express. If it's cloud-based, it doesn't necessarily store history the way a desktop app would.


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May 07, 2022 18:00 |  #11

AntonLargiader wrote in post #19375474 (external link)
I simply followed that link and it specifically described DPP Express. If it's cloud-based, it doesn't necessarily store history the way a desktop app would.

That's strange. I just clicked the link again and got this:

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May 07, 2022 19:29 |  #12

AntonLargiader wrote in post #19375474 (external link)
I simply followed that link and it specifically described DPP Express. If it's cloud-based, it doesn't necessarily store history the way a desktop app would.

My apologies- I see which link you meant.
Yes, one link is DPP Express. I did miss that.

DPP Express still saves up to 4 change histories.

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Here are instructions for DPP- under editing, changes can be restored to the state the image was last saved or taken- so it isn't a complete history?
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May 07, 2022 23:14 |  #13

Fast Raw Viewer
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I've used (and use) both of these for my initial cull. Make 4 digits worth of photos into 2 digits worth that get imported into a LR catalog. That's a very, very limited use of their functionality, but they do a good job of that and I haven't gone any further.

What kind of raw files does the R6 produce? I have a 90D that writes .CR3 files and both apps handle those just fine.

I don't use them at all for the file management stuff you described, but I believe both do that in some capacity. You've got some pretty specific needs so you'll have to try them and see if they work for you. I don't remember if they were both free, but if not, the cost would have had to have been negligible for me to have them.


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May 08, 2022 18:34 |  #14

Capn Jack wrote in post #19375501 (external link)
...Here are instructions for DPP- under editing, changes can be restored to the state the image was last saved or taken- so it isn't a complete history?
https://cam.start.cano​n …UG-04_EditImage_0180.html (external link)

Makes sense. If the edits are saved in some sort of sidecar XML file then it would be reasonable for the software to only keep a certain number of changes, whereas you could still discard all of the changes by just ditching the file altogether. I haven't looked for it file in DPP but I think I have seen such a file with the raw file in either Lightroom or Bridge. In DPP, it could be in a single database.


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May 24, 2022 14:05 |  #15

I’ve used Canon’s DPP for years. Select all and use Quick Check on full screen mode. X out unwanted files, then select deleted files and move them to trash.

I then import into Lightroom.


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