Canon EOS R7 pre-sales discussion, hypothesizing, and prognosticating

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #19382363
I am very much intrigued, and considering an R7 as a 2nd mirrorless body!

What I LOVE about the R7 is the price point! This is what a 10D cost in 2004! That's pretty damn amazing.

Yes! I’m seriously considering getting one too. I think it would make a very nice addition to my R6. I’m going to wait until the reviews come in and more is known about how the sensor performs, but the price sure is right for a second body, and with the R3’s AF system no less!

Tommydigi wrote in post #19382372
I'm interested in the R7 too. I was looking at an R5 or R6 to go with my R. I'm actually pretty happy with the R for most things but for fast moving subjects it's terrible.

With the R6, I'm a little turned off by the 20mp. The R5 is probably overkill for me. R7 seems like a good choice for me.

I can keep my R for landscapes etc and add an R7 for tele to replace my 7d2.

Agreed, that too seems like a great pair. Love the Rs' sensor, but not it's AF and handling. R7 would solve all that.

I could not have been more wrong in what I thought the R7 price would be. Being so wrong in that way also drove me to pre-order it. I have concerns about it such as handling and the buffer. I'll be curious to what extent shooting in CRAW, which I use now, will help with where the buffer limits are. However, I also see positives such as price point, resolution, and the AF. I was considering upgrading to an R5, but hesitated as the R6 has served my needs 95% of the time. Pairing an R7 with my R6 is net less expensive than upgrading to a new R5. Could be a great combo for various scenarios. For me, it may be difficult to come to a final conclusion without actually using the R7.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #19382363
I know I am one that posted an opinion that this feels more like a mirrorless 90D than a 7 series, an opinion that included absolutely no grievance, just my view.

That said, as an example that pointing out the obvious does not equate to hatred, I am very much intrigued, and considering an R7 as a 2nd mirrorless body! (Personally, I was/am more disappointed by the R3's sensor/MP. That one spec combined with the cost prevented my from making the R3 my 2nd R. )

What I LOVE about the R7 is the price point! This is what a 10D cost in 2004! That's pretty damn amazing. Unlike the R3 I don't have to consider it's few detractions vs. exorbitant costs. This makes the R7 a much more appealing and easy to swallow compromise. (all cameras are a compromise of some sort)

Having watched the prices of R bodies, and worse, RF lenses, I honestly did not think Canon still had in it them to position cameras for the masses. Certainly ones that still contain fantastic advanced AF features!


Also, the 18-135mm being one of my favorite do all lenses, this new kit lens looks like a no brainer!

$1500 sure looks a hell of a lot better than 6K or 4K for the R5. And file size is right where I would want it to me as well for wildlife.....Im just NOT SURE how this sensor and the electronics are going to work. You can make an R5 shoot at 1.6 format. Im wondering if its going to have same appeal as a 7D sensor...we all bought crops for the extra reach. So How is that going to work on a RF 100-500 v/s using a 500MM EF lens on a 7D2 to get to 800mm FOV....probably a dumb question but Im wondering how all that is going to work out

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #19382375
Agreed, that too seems like a great pair. Love the Rs' sensor, but not it's AF and handling. R7 would solve all that.

and the 30Mp sensor is in 5D4 territory....which is just about perfect

Where I feel the R7 will benefit me are on a few accounts:
- Replace my M50 (longer battery life, dual cards)
- Better AF than my M50 (like real working eye AF instead of the first gen version)
- Nicer ergos I feel (other than dial issues, lack of some buttons)
- 15fps mechanical interests me over the 10 I get now, but probably will hardly ever use 30fps ES.

Not sure what to think about the lack of a grip though, or that strange dial/joystick (but they are related, placement assumes no grip will ever work with the camera).

So even if this isn't a 7D3, I would just continue to use my 5D4 and R6 for that type of work where I would have used the 7D2 (and it helps I sold the 7D2 some time back for the M50), the R7 would come out for wildlife/hobbyist work as needed with details/resolution I cannot get today (24Mpx vs 32Mpx).

I wish more people had gotten time with the camera and posted videos, etc. I guess more will show up over the next few weeks like they did with the R5/6.

Watched so many reviews so far, coincidentally I was also in Orlando area while this reviewers like Jared Polin, if I have known they are going to be Gatorland I will go there and for sure I will see the r7 in person but I wasn’t aware of the event ha ha. But I saw the rare Yellow Cardinal though my main target flying from Seattle to Florida and come back the next day. What a fun trip.

I thought I saw somewhere that Canon start shipping in June 23.

If anyone sees official word from Canon in the future that the R7 will accomodate a battery grip, that would be a worthy tidbit to share.

Immaculens wrote in post #19382400
If anyone sees official word from Canon in the future that the R7 will accomodate a battery grip, that would be a worthy tidbit to share.

As I remember, Canon never made one for the T4i but 3rd party ones (Vello/Neewer/Meike) did. So could happen with the R7/R10.

umphotography wrote in post #19382305
Yup agreed big time. My only concerns is that the camera looks pretty small. That means you are going to need a Mono pad when using a bigger lens and especially a super tele....This is a camera I think I will get...I would want it for wildlife needs only and at $1500 its cheap enough and it looks like you get auto eye focus for wildlife....looks ike a win win to me.....gonna get one in my hands and see how it feels

That is my feeling exactly I want to see how it feels I am mainly interested in the Animal AF with the 15 fps mechanical second. The price point is right.

I am planning to rent one and check it out.

I am thinking of keeping my 90D as a backup and getting rid of the R7, or give it to one of the kids as I am not sure how much resale value there is. I hardly use the 7DII as I have it as a backup to the 90D or when the weather is crappy or drizzling. I will also keep my 5DIV as it has it's uses.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #19382363
Also, the 18-135mm being one of my favorite do all lenses, this new kit lens looks like a no brainer!

I’ve been very impressed by the EF-M 18-150, which I got with the M5 as a travel kit. Definitely a great lens for going small and light.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19382389
Not sure what to think about the lack of a grip though, or that strange dial/joystick (but they are related, placement assumes no grip will ever work with the camera). .

Someone needs to pop open an R7 and look inside to see if the connections are there or not. I assume not with al this talk about no grip, but if they are there, it's more a matter of no grip YET.

Looking at the pictures and reviews it looks like the R7 is slightly smaller than the 90D which was much small than the 7DII.

I personally like a larger camera, my old Rebel was perfect and the 5DIV not bad. the 90D felt smallish and the R7 looks smaller still

Immaculens wrote in post #19382400
If anyone sees official word from Canon in the future that the R7 will accomodate a battery grip, that would be a worthy tidbit to share.

Again, one just needs to look inside the battery compartment,. It either has connections for a grip controller or it doesn't.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #19382430
Someone needs to pop open an R7 and look inside to see if the connections are there or not. I assume not with al this talk about no grip, but if they are there, it's more a matter of no grip YET.

I saw an image of the battery door popped off and (he said) it had the required divots for a grip. If Canon does not offer a grip - others likely could. Stay tuned...