Canon EOS R7 pre-sales discussion, hypothesizing, and prognosticating

Yesterday I received my R7 from a forum member here. I'm so excited that I have to tell somebody!

Beside reading the manual and a few youtube videos, I'll be reading the many R7 comments posted on POTN.
A wealth of information from you folks.

Looking forward to how the R7 works with my Canon 300 f2.8 IS II and extenders. Also with my EF 100-400 II.

Lots to learn!

Perfectly Frank wrote in post #19398900
Yesterday I received my R7 from a forum member here. I'm so excited that I have to tell somebody!

Beside reading the manual and a few youtube videos, I'll be reading the many R7 comments posted on POTN.
A wealth of information from you folks.

Looking forward to how the R7 works with my Canon 300 f2.8 IS II and extenders. Also with my EF 100-400 II.

Lots to learn!

I saw that ad waaaay too late Have fun and look forward to seeing some captures!

Sorry Jake...

I have decided to keep the R7, will be returning the rental R7 today, if they have a control ring adapter, if not I will order one from B&H and return the rental Wednesday.

Very informative...

gossamer88 wrote in post #19399116
I saw that ad waaaay too late Have fun and look forward to seeing some captures!

I thought people would jump on that offer in a heart beat. I was surprised it lasted as long as it did.

Demo of the RAW Burst feature...so great Canon added this feature!

Perfectly Frank wrote in post #19399205
I thought people would jump on that offer in a heart beat. I was surprised it lasted as long as it did.

How many views did it have when you replied? It has 199 now. I would have expected it to be a scam. He could have made a good profit if he'd been greedy. Glad it worked out for you. It must have been "meant to be".

Someone over at DPReview made available their RAW files of the Canon R7 and Sony α1. I tried my best to match the colors as best as I can in ACR.

The left R7 the right α1. Which one do you prefer?

gossamer88 wrote in post #19399482
Someone over at DPReview made available their RAW files of the Canon R7 and Sony α1. I tried my best to match the colors as best as I can in ACR.

The left R7 the right α1. Which one do you prefer?

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it's probably a useless comparison because of the different lenses

grzegorz9992 wrote in post #19399504
it's probably a useless comparison because of the different lenses

No question the bokeh is the biggest difference. The comparison is mostly about cost. The lenses are the RF 100-400 / FE 200-600. So we're talking $2100 vs $8500. Is spending $6400 more worth it?

grzegorz9992 wrote in post #19399504
it's probably a useless comparison because of the different lenses

My thoughts exactly.

As soon as I saw the very different background blur, I noticed that the pupils used were very different in size, which makes this a pupil size demonstration as much as anything.

gossamer88 wrote in post #19399509
No question the bokeh is the biggest difference. The comparison is mostly about cost. The lenses are the RF 100-400 / FE 200-600. So we're talking $2100 vs $8500. Is spending $6400 more worth it?

You did present it in your post as body vs body, though, and what I saw was pupil vs pupil.

colors wise..it looks cooler with a tad more magenta on the R7.....which I prefer.....but its a raw file...you can make it what ever you want...thats what sliders are for

gossamer88 wrote in post #19399509
No question the bokeh is the biggest difference. The comparison is mostly about cost. The lenses are the RF 100-400 / FE 200-600. So we're talking $2100 vs $8500. Is spending $6400 more worth it?

I don't understand the entire premise behind this question. Are you saying you can tell if one camera is "more worth it" than another simply by looking at two single images from each side by side? Images, I might add, that have been post-processed specifically to minimize any differences between them?

Yes, photography is ultimately about the images that are produced. But the camera is what helps you *get* those images. Anybody can get a lucky shot with any camera, even not-so-lucky in the hands of an experienced photographer with a little advanced planning. But there are many other factors that differentiate one camera from another, factors that reduce the need for "luck" and help a skilled photographer to be more likely to get the money shot. Just a few that have been discussed in the 130+ pages in these two threads about the R7: AF speed, target selection (face/eye/vehicle), burst size, high FPS with pre-shooting, ISO/noise, flash sync, etc. I'll even include subjective and non-image-related factors like grip size, control position, ergonomics, customizability, and battery life as important because they allow the photographer to confidently manipulate the camera and reflexively have their fingers where they need to be when they need to be there so they can stay focused on getting the shot.

It's easy to take potshots at Sony or Nikon flagships in a Canon-specific forum. But I would dare say that one could produce a similar pair of comparison images to question the price difference between the R7 and the R5 or R3, or even between the R5, R3, or R7 and a much lower priced camera like the Sony α6100 ($750), or Canon M50 Mark II ($700) or Rebel T7 ($550), all of which are extremely competent performers for their prices.

As the image is ultimately what we're trying to produce, such comparisons are not irrelevant. But they're not the entire story either.

Question for those who have or have had the EF100-400mm v2 and the RF100-500mm.

My EF lens works well with the R7 body. Just as good as on the 90D. If I would purchase the RF100-500mm, I would assume image quality would be as good or maybe better than my EF lens. My question is, would the native combo give me better IS?

When at airshow with prop aircraft and helos your SS is usually between 1/60 & 320. I am no longer able to pan and have the majority of pics in focus at 400mm and with the t/c it only gets worse. I have resorted to a gimbal/tripod. But that just stinks.

Jets are no problem at this time.