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Mar 29, 2006 11:45 |  #16

I have the 70-200 2.8L and my g/f has the 70-200 4L and both are great. I'd say if you dont need the extra speed and dont wanna spend the money, go for the F4. They are both great lenses.


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Mar 29, 2006 15:25 |  #17

Money was an issue for me, so I got the f/4.0. It has worked wonderfully for me outdoors and I even used it at several indoor basketball games and concerts with great success. If money is an issue, get the f/4.0. If money is not an issue, get the f/2.8


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Mar 29, 2006 15:32 |  #18

I JUST bought the 70-200 f/4. Why, price, weight, and value. Ive used the 2.8 L IS, my favorite lens too.

Ill upgrade if I have to, I willing to give this lens a shot, since resale value is TOP DOLLAR, I had no problem buying this lens.


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Mar 29, 2006 15:40 |  #19

For me the 70-200 family a bit too big and noticable to use indoors e.g. family events etc. I got the 70-200 f/4 for outdoor use and portability at almost half the weight of the f/2.8. I really like the f/4.

I find f/2.8 a bit slow indoors anyway, and I generally use my primes inside. I use the 50 f/1.4 a lot so I think even 70mm indoor might be a bit long.

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Mar 29, 2006 15:50 |  #20

The focus speed of the 70-200L f/4 cant be THAT much slower, can it?

Id figure canon AF speeds are typically very fast on their L lenses. I had tamron glass which I found to be "slow" Even my 17-40L and my 10-22 show lot faster AF speeds than average. I havent gotten me lens yet, but how bad can it be?

And can anyone else confirm this lens hunts in low light? I hope it doesnt!


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Mar 29, 2006 16:01 |  #21

There's always manual focus if it hunts in low-light. I find my 17-40 doesn't hunt too badly, so I imagine the constant F/4 of this lens will be about the same.

That being said, the F/4 70-200 will be my next purchase as bumping up ISO and using a tripod cover my low-light needs.



  
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Mar 29, 2006 19:15 as a reply to  @ StealthLude's post |  #22

StealthLude wrote:
Id figure canon AF speeds are typically very fast on their L lenses. I had tamron glass which I found to be "slow" Even my 17-40L and my 10-22 show lot faster AF speeds than average. I havent gotten me lens yet, but how bad can it be?

And can anyone else confirm this lens hunts in low light? I hope it doesnt!

I believe the camera is able to focus faster with glass that has a minimum aperture of 1/2.8. The 70-200 f/4.0 focuses slower not because of poor manufacturing of the lens, but a limitation of the aperture size.


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Mar 29, 2006 19:22 |  #23

I have the 2.8 as well, I went with it for the low light shooting capability.


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Mar 29, 2006 19:48 as a reply to  @ chrishunt's post |  #24

burntbizzkit wrote:
I believe the camera is able to focus faster with glass that has a minimum aperture of 1/2.8. The 70-200 f/4.0 focuses slower not because of poor manufacturing of the lens, but a limitation of the aperture size.

Just to quote Steve's Digicams:

"The sophisticated 9-point autofocus system has a high-precision cross-type sensor in the center position. This new design seen for the first time in the 20D provides full cross- type performance with maximum apertures as small as f/5.6, yet it achieves up to 3 times the standard focusing precision when used with EF lenses featuring maximum apertures larger than or equal to f/2.8. A new, convenient Multi-controller provides fast and easy AF point selection."

From: http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_revi​ews/20d_pg2.html (external link)


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Mar 29, 2006 20:39 |  #25

If you get the EF200 f/2.8L you will have the best of both worlds.


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Mar 29, 2006 21:31 |  #26

1 reason that I wanted the 2.8 over the f4 besides the obvious was the fact that I could use extenders on it (1.4x and 2x even) and not loose as much light or autofocus. Just a bonus that for a couple hundred bucks more your 200mm becomes a sweet 280mm with the 1.4x @ f4


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Mar 29, 2006 22:00 as a reply to  @ Tangledlines's post |  #27

Tangledlines wrote:
1 reason that I wanted the 2.8 over the f4 besides the obvious was the fact that I could use extenders on it (1.4x and 2x even) and not loose as much light or autofocus. Just a bonus that for a couple hundred bucks more your 200mm becomes a sweet 280mm with the 1.4x @ f4

you can use a 1.4 TC with the F4 and still retain AF . IQ is still excellent too.

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Mar 29, 2006 22:06 |  #28

Ed, do you lose the ability to shoot at F/4 wide open with the 1.4 TC?



  
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Mar 29, 2006 22:07 as a reply to  @ ed rader's post |  #29

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you can use a 1.4 TC with the F4 and still retain AF . IQ is still excellent too.

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true, but you aren't shooting at f4 anymore your stuck at 5.6 max.

if you go to a 2x with the f4 you loose autofocus


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Mar 29, 2006 22:14 as a reply to  @ Tangledlines's post |  #30

Tangledlines wrote:
true, but you aren't shooting at f4 anymore your stuck at 5.6 max.

if you go to a 2x with the f4 you loose autofocus

sounds like you want the f2.8....and i would never use a 2x TC. if i needed that much reach i would buy a different lens.

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