-= Canon EOS R7 owners unite! Post photos and discuss.

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19410882
Yes, that is indeed what I take away from the responses to my question, that “DLA is […] lost in the noise.”
I wonder why TDP put a bit of emphasis on it, but I’ll never worry about it again. Thanks, Jack.

Is this the quote?:

All this is technically true but he more or less says it is irrelevant reading between the lines.

He mentions using a T&S lens to tilt the plane of sharp focus, but that is still misleading because you have to stop down to "fan out" the area of acceptable focus if there is any subject extent above and below the plane of sharp focus. No free rides.

[Cynic Mode] I guess it is a good way to encourage clicks and links. [/Cynic Mode]

Anyway I think we are wandering off the topic, I want more user experience of the R7 =>> I wonder if Park Cameras will ever deliver mine, I don't remember a massive wait for the 7D, it arrived the day of release.

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19410892
Is this the quote?:

All this is technically true but he more or less says it is irrelevant reading between the lines.

If that is what he is implying, then why mention it at all?

I never liked his reviews anyway. He always promotes the most expensive Canon stuff. Even in his R7 review he says what an excellent choice the RF 28-70mm f/2 is for people who shoot in dark environments. That’s a 3500 euro lens! And also you have to at least add a telephoto zoom lens to the kit and then says the Canon RF 70-200mm F2.8 L IS USM Lens is “an outstanding choice.” I’m sure it is but at 2800 euro that is a ridiculous advice for people buying the R7. He always does that.

Over here not one store has them. All read: out of stock.

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19410892
Is this the quote?:
Anyway I think we are wandering off the topic, I want more user experience of the R7 =>> I wonder if Park Cameras will ever deliver mine, I don't remember a massive wait for the 7D, it arrived the day of release.

I was in York Camera Mart last week (buying an RF 100-500 L as it happens - I gave in!), he said the lens had only come in that day along with 2 R7s. So they are still trickling out in the UK.

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19410892
Is this the quote?:

All this is technically true but he more or less says it is irrelevant reading between the lines.

He mentions using a T&S lens to tilt the plane of sharp focus, but that is still misleading because you have to stop down to "fan out" the area of acceptable focus if there is any subject extent above and below the plane of sharp focus. No free rides.

[Cynic Mode] I guess it is a good way to encourage clicks and links. [/Cynic Mode]

Anyway I think we are wandering off the topic, I want more user experience of the R7 =>> I wonder if Park Cameras will ever deliver mine, I don't remember a massive wait for the 7D, it arrived the day of release.

A store I have dealt with in the past is showing the R7 body only as in stock. I'm still on the fence due to compatibility with my Tamron 150-600 G2. References I have found so far for Tamron lenses in general don't paint a very positive picture. The RF 100-500 will set me back $4425 cad so that's not a doer.
Lester, I think it was reported earlier that your G1 will require a firmware update, at the least, to work. Looking forward to your actual tests.

Waiting and watching.

Rod

RodS57 wrote in post #19410929
A store I have dealt with in the past is showing the R7 body only as in stock. I'm still on the fence due to compatibility with my Tamron 150-600 G2. References I have found so far for Tamron lenses in general don't paint a very positive picture. The RF 100-500 will set me back $4425 cad so that's not a doer.
Lester, I think it was reported earlier that your G1 will require a firmware update, at the least, to work. Looking forward to your actual tests.

Waiting and watching.

Rod

If you want one you should pull the trigger!

Tom Reichner wrote in post #19410247
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Jake, I believe this is why so many of us developed the habit of downloading with a card reader. . It was out of necessity.

Many of the photographers I know are serious wildlife photographers, and they frequently take 2,000 to 8,000 photos each day when the animals are cooperative. . Add to this that they are often photographing far from home, on a trip that they didn't bring a computer with them, and using multiple cards and card readers is still a necessity, even with the modern high-capacity equipment.

I think it's the same for many rodeo photographers and sports action photographers, who also shoot thousands upon thousands of photos during an event, and have to switch out cards. . Some wedding photographers probably do the same thing.

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Maybe we need a t shirt that says

I use BBF
I use a Card Reader

Archibald wrote in post #19410297
You can test the card or you can test the USB port!

In my case one of the USB ports on my computer failed!!

edmidlifecrisis wrote in post #19410964
Maybe we need a t shirt that says

I use BBF
I use a Card Reader

Gotta watch out there. Some non-photography people will see BBF the same as BBW

Rod

edmidlifecrisis wrote in post #19410965
In my case one of the USB ports on my computer failed!!

We have had several USB ports on phones and tablets fail, and after getting by for a while using books or other weights to place just the right pressure on the connection at just the right angle to allow charging, we gave in and had to buy replacements.

I've never had a USB fail on a desktop computer, but that should be no big deal as there are usually several, and if needed, a USB card can be installed. It would be a lot harder in a laptop.

FYI, while I was away in Newfoundland shooting with my new R7, a second R7 (kit with EF-S lens) arrived at my door from Canon USA. (I thought my order was cancelled, ah well)

If anyone local to Rhode Island is interested, I've posted in the marketplace. Otherwise I'll ship it back.


As for Eagles,. the missing RF adapter and therefore lack of 100-400mm had a seriously deleterious effect on my ability to capture any in flight, but still an amazing experience. Here's a teaser; (sorry I forgot to resize to 1280 for the forum upload, so soft due to resize)

RodS57 wrote in post #19410977
Gotta watch out there. Some non-photography people will see BBF the same as BBW

Rod

Bath and Body Works? ߘ

RodS57 wrote in post #19410977
Gotta watch out there. Some non-photography people will see BBF the same as BBW

Rod

Explain. Please

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #19410988
FYI, while I was away in Newfoundland shooting with my new R7, a second R7 (kit with EF-S lens) arrived at my door from Canon USA. (I thought my order was cancelled, ah well)

If anyone local to Rhode Island is interested, I've posted in the marketplace. Otherwise I'll ship it back.


As for Eagles,. the missing RF adapter and therefore lack of 100-400mm had a seriously deleterious effect on my ability to capture any in flight, but still an amazing experience. Here's a teaser; (sorry I forgot to resize to 1280 for the forum upload, so soft due to resize)

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I never have resized my uploads, I thought it does it automatically? Should I be doing that in PSCC? I had thought my uploads looked ok but maybe could be better?

John Sheehy wrote in post #19410836
Whoops! Look like I got tricked by something that was too good to be true.

When I reported AF at very high f-ratios with the R7 and its new Display Simulation option for DOF, I chose targets and lighting where DOF was not obvious in the EVF. Yesterday, I tried it again with "deeper" scenes and when I half-pressed the shutter, I saw the DOF get shallow. So, the R7 does not keep then lens stopped down as it starts to focus, at least the way I have the camera set up. So, when I wrote that it focused at f/192, it clearly was not, because yesterday I tried f/40 in daylight, and the aperture opened up for pre-focus.

It does still seem to help somewhat for the AI to see the pre-focus EVF before focusing, though. I chose a narrow subject just past MFD after focusing on the far background at both f/40 and f/9, and when the camera was set to f/9, it would not focus at all, with several attempts, but when set to f/40, it was slow to focus but could. In any event, a little help at f40 is not very useful, because I have no intention to do much shooting at f/40.

So, it may be only for pre-AF focus that the EVF is looking through the shooting aperture.

Sorry if anyone bought an R7 for this alleged stopped-down focus feature (not likely).

All of the Canon R cameras (since R5 at least) focus at an aperture that may not be the aperture set on the camera. In many cases at larger aperture and under very bright conditions smaller aperture. The camera is apparently choosing the best aperture for the focusing algorithms to do their magic.

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19410892
Anyway I think we are wandering off the topic, I want more user experience of the R7.

I must have been lucky enough to be one of the first in Australia to get one--didn't expect my pre-order to materialise for months but I've had it now for a few weeks. I'm liking it the more I use it. Things I like (in no particular order):

The autofocus; after a few strange things happened from time to time I am slowly working out why they happened and how to get it to do what I want (this is my first mirrorless camera of any sort so a lot of this is new to me). The autofocus is awesome the way it can pick up and track an eye or other subject right across the frame, even when I can barely make it out through the viewfinder. And I've set a second back button to do normal AF point focusing as well. Sometimes when Eye-AF gets confused by branches, foliage etc. that 2nd button gets it close enough to the eye's focal plane that eye-AF can then pick up the eye.

15 fps; I thought 10 fps on the 90D was pretty cool and all I'd ever need but 15 is awesome. Of course it can do 30 on electronic shutter but I haven't tried that yet, I have so many shots to sort and cull at 15. And you get rolling shutter with ES. I'm using electronic first curtain shutter--quieter and less lag than mechanical but no (or not much) rolling shutter. I understand it does strange things to point source bokeh but I'm not using it for that.

The customisability; there are so many buttons and wheels you can set to so many different actions, setting it up just how you'd like to use it. Way more than the 90D or 5DIV.

The wheel to the right of the viewfinder; I have it set to change ISO and can finally change ISO on the fly, with eye to the viewfinder, without having to press a button first. I shoot a lot in full manual and it works a treat. Since I don't change aperture as often as ISO I do that with the control ring (if the lens has one) or with the Q-menu.

The feel in the hand, ergonomics and the lightness of it.

32.5 Mpx; same as 90D but it's cool for getting a lot of pixels on a distant target--slight disadvantage re diffraction, which kicks in at about f/5 or so but I think it's barely noticeable, and noise is not bad if exposed properly (i.e. with highlights just short of clipping).

Two SD card slots.

Lighter, better balanced lenses than EF equivalents

Things I don't like:

The EVF--but at least the clear info you get through the viewfinder goes some way to making up for it. Also don't like the fact you have to have it on and awake to see anything through it.

It seems to take a long time to wake up (although I realised yesterday that it was on eco-power mode or something, which probably slowed its waking time--seems better now).

No built-in flash! I use the one on the 90D a lot.

The lack of a wheel around the 4-way controller (this would have been nice but isn't a big issue).

The back cover that goes on RF lenses is a bit frustrating to align properly when putting it on--the EF just goes straight on (update, I now realise there is a line on the cover that you line up with the red mark on the lens and it goes on just fine).

The mode dial and back dial are a bit too easy to turn inadvertently--the 90D and 80D have a mode dial with a button that has to be pushed before you can turn it, the R7 doesn't.

I wouldn't like to get it wet or drop it.

A lot of raw converters can't yet handle its raws.

Overall, the pros outweigh the cons well and truly, even battery life is surprisingly good.