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mcoren wrote in post #19412821
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This seems a lot like the oft-referenced "statement" by Canon that the 90D was the successor to the 7DII. It has a life of its own in internet forums, but I've never been able to find it in an official Canon release, and nobody who repeats it can provide a Canon source when asked.
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I think the same way you do. . Unless Canon officially states that a camera body is a successor to a previous body, then it is not. . Forum users seem to be obsessed with grouping things together and categorizing things, but the only thing that carries any actual basis in reality is what the manufacturer officially says about a body. . Anything else is just someone's own personal thoughts.

For example, the R7 is not "the mirrorless version of the 7D Mark 2" unless Canon specifically says that it is. . Just because specifications are similar and it seems to be made for the same types of photography, with the same strengths and weaknesses, doesn't mean that it is in any way an official replacement for the 7D Mark 2.

Same thing with sensors. . Just because one body has the same size sensor and the same number of pixels that a previous body had DOES NOT mean that it is the same sensor. . You'd think that people would have learned this by now, but I still see the same misinformed comments being made all over the internet. . Frustrates the hell out of me.

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John Sheehy wrote in post #19412943
I did a quick test of what happens when the buffer fills a couple of days ago with a really, really slow card at 30fps, and it was disturbing what the camera was doing; when the buffer filled, shooting seemed to stop completely, and I saw the red light flickering as the buffer was being written to the card, but the rate at which new images were possible was weird - it took a long time for any new shot to be possible at all, maybe around a minute, but the "shots left" number, once it finally did start increasing, increased by about one image every 4 seconds, pretty much reflecting the speed of the card. So, it seems that the camera is actually putting highest priority on clearing a certain large amount of buffer RAM before allowing shooting to happen again. I didn't play with variables like actual image size vs camera-expected size, but that very, very long pause seemed unnecessary to me. It seems to me that a camera should be able to shoot at the card speed or close to it (because of memory management overhead) once the buffer fills, especially if the camera allows the images to be written out-of-order to the card, but the camera seems to have another priority.

Well, I've investigated further with precise numbers extracted with EXIFTool, and it seems that what happens is that the camera fills a ~1.5GB buffer only at the beginning of a held burst, then stops shooting completely and waits until about 35% or 60% of the buffer is cleared to the card, and then bursts again, until the buffer is filled yet again, ad infinitum. This is with a card that only took files from the buffer at 5.8MB/s.

The only rationale for this behavior that I can think of is to get the files onto the card in the order that they were shot, while maintaining "intermittent" 30fps, but as I've said before, if I am holding the shutter button down, I want to shoot as soon as possible, not wait many seconds or minutes (with a slow card) for isolated, sporadic 30fps bursts.

Decided to try the 400 5.6L with the 1.4x III teleconverter

processed in LR with AI denoise It seems to hold up pretty well.

I was showing my grip extension, made from a BG-E2 with the extension cut off and held on with the "tripod" screw, on the Michael the Mavin R7 FB thread. One of the people there told me that, that is a bad idea because moisture can get into the camera...

I don't see how. what I did was the same as putting an arca-swiss plate or an tripod plate on the bottom of the camera, the screw is the only thing contacting the camera, the grip sits against it. Battery cover is on. I asked him how moisture would get in. I also said if that is true then you shouldn't attach the R7 to a tripod as moisture would get in...

I can see moisture getting into the BG-E2 but with the extension cut off I don't think the electronics would work very well anyway, just thinking...

if there is moisture in the BG-E2 it would be like sitting the camera on some damp grass, i would think, or supporting the camera from the base with sweaty hands.

I checked the battery cover and it has better weather sealing than the 90D does or even the 5DIV looking at them.

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #19415559
I was showing my grip extension, made from a BG-E2 with the extension cut off and held on with the "tripod" screw, on the Michael the Mavin R7 FB thread. One of the people there told me that, that is a bad idea because moisture can get into the camera...

I don't see how. what I did was the same as putting an arca-swiss plate or an tripod plate on the bottom of the camera, the screw is the only thing contacting the camera, the grip sits against it. Battery cover is on. I asked him how moisture would get in. I also said if that is true then you shouldn't attach the R7 to a tripod as moisture would get in...

I can see moisture getting into the BG-E2 but with the extension cut off I don't think the electronics would work very well anyway, just thinking...

if there is moisture in the BG-E2 it would be like sitting the camera on some damp grass, i would think, or supporting the camera from the base with sweaty hands.

I checked the battery cover and it has better weather sealing than the 90D does or even the 5DIV looking at them.

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Don't believe everything people say on the internet

Man, I wish I never replaced my 2009 7D with the 2014 7D2. If I did I'd have a genuine excuse to replace it with a 2022 R7

dolina wrote in post #19415619
Man, I wish I never replaced my 2009 7D with the 2014 7D2. If I did I'd have a genuine excuse to replace it with a 2022 R7

Each of us has to decide for ourselves if the upgrade to any new body is worth the cost, or if we even consider it an "upgrade". There's no intrinsically right or wrong answer.

dolina wrote in post #19415619
Man, I wish I never replaced my 2009 7D with the 2014 7D2. If I did I'd have a genuine excuse to replace it with a 2022 R7

I had bought a used 7DII when I already had the 90D wanted a body to use in the rain. I was going to trade the 7Dii on the R7 but the trade in value us only about $350 so I decided the 7DII will be my car camera, I leave it in the car all the time with an 18-200 lens.

The 90D will be the backup for birds and the 5DIV will be used for very low light and landscapes etc.

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #19415559
I was showing my grip extension, made from a BG-E2 with the extension cut off and held on with the "tripod" screw, on the Michael the Mavin R7 FB thread. One of the people there told me that, that is a bad idea because moisture can get into the camera...

I don't see how. what I did was the same as putting an arca-swiss plate or an tripod plate on the bottom of the camera, the screw is the only thing contacting the camera, the grip sits against it. Battery cover is on. I asked him how moisture would get in. I also said if that is true then you shouldn't attach the R7 to a tripod as moisture would get in...

I can see moisture getting into the BG-E2 but with the extension cut off I don't think the electronics would work very well anyway, just thinking...

if there is moisture in the BG-E2 it would be like sitting the camera on some damp grass, i would think, or supporting the camera from the base with sweaty hands.

I checked the battery cover and it has better weather sealing than the 90D does or even the 5DIV looking at them.

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That is indeed a very strange response. Maybe the person who said that thought that you had taken the battery door off your R7 and somehow connected batteries from the BG-E2 into the R7, and was saying that the two weren't engineered together to preserve the moisture seal like a native Canon grip would.

Acquired an R7 kit a couple days ago due to all the enthusiasm of owners in this thread. I've got it set up now and taken a few shots. I like it. Very interesting camera for Canon since it has moderate components (90Dish sensor, noisy shutter, smaller EVF...) combined with the newest, best features in AF software. The button layout is fine for me on the small body and I'm starting to think the back dial at the top surrounding the joystick may be an improvement over the traditional Canon layout.

The AF software is not only very effective, but also the menu options are more intuitive to adjust than the R5. Turning tracking on or off from any starting AF area is sweet. The preshooting feature will be a big difference for me shooting wildlife. And customizing the Q menu is a great add.

Like my R5 I've reassigned the DOF button to MENU and made extensive use of the customizable menus. I love this approach to get to the commonly used menu items rapidly while not removing the camera from my eye or readjusting my grip on the camera.

My largest frustration at this point is setting up Av/Tv/ISO across the two dials. The camera was designed to solve this by adding the ISO button. But I prefer ISO and shutter speed on the dials, so I have assigned ISO to the back dial and shutter speed to the main dial. Unfortunately, the ISO button can't be reassigned to designate aperture or shutter speed, so for now I'm using the control ring for aperture... Hoping to find a better solution. Ideas?

mcoren wrote in post #19415651
Each of us has to decide for ourselves if the upgrade to any new body is worth the cost, or if we even consider it an "upgrade". There's no intrinsically right or wrong answer.

I barely used my 7D2 from 2014-onwards.

So keeping the 7D from 2009-onwards is a better utility for it.

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mcoren wrote in post #19415656
That is indeed a very strange response. Maybe the person who said that thought that you had taken the battery door off your R7 and somehow connected batteries from the BG-E2 into the R7, and was saying that the two weren't engineered together to preserve the moisture seal like a native Canon grip would.

He made the comment when I said it didn't affect the weather sealing and that I checked the battery door on the R7 and there is weather sealing, some sort of gasket there that I don't see on the 90D or 5DIV. He checked his battery grips and they are not weather sealed once they are put on. Think about it they make a fairly tight seal but I don't see any gasket on the battery grips where it goes into the camera so not truly weather sealed from what I can see. but on my R7 the main battery door on the R7 is still in place and closed

downhillonwater wrote in post #19415666
Acquired an R7 kit a couple days ago due to all the enthusiasm of owners in this thread. I've got it set up now and taken a few shots. I like it. Very interesting camera for Canon since it has moderate components (90Dish sensor, noisy shutter, smaller EVF...) combined with the newest, best features in AF software. The button layout is fine for me on the small body and I'm starting to think the back dial at the top surrounding the joystick may be an improvement over the traditional Canon layout.

I since I don't change F stop on the fly I set the control ring on the RF lens and the EF/RF adapter to F/stop, the back wheel at the top of the back to EV +- as I change that constantly. Works for me and I also like that wheel especially with the grip extension on the R7

My R7 kit arrived! I'm at work so I can't play with it yet. First impression is it is tiny and light! That part reminds me of my first Rebel. I'm sure it will feel a lot different once I put the EF 100-400L II on it.