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Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #19397538
Went to the pond tonight with the R7 and RF600 F/11 it was shooting very high ISO but I am trying to test everything.

This shot was at ISO 12,800! The noise is less than what I was getting with the 90D at 3,200 to my eye.

I ran it through AI Denoise and AI Sharpen both Auto and then through LR for some color. Just did it quick. It looks pretty good to me especially since I cropped it down to less than 20%

I like the RF600 better than the RF800.

There were 10 shots of the Swallow and I got 7 or 8 that were ok, with my 90D I was usually having a 0% hit rate on Swallows. Of course there were others I took that were awful.

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!2800.....Yeehaaaw...t​hats great news for sure...were you using adapted glass ?? And do you have a 150-600 to try it with.....If you decide to sell the R7 drop me a line

AntonLargiader wrote in post #19397700
Yes, but shooting in great light isn't necessarily the solution.

It depends on who needs to know. Many people are using or getting high ISOs because of slow, long lenses and shutter speed needs, and get high ISOs outdoors during the day, even under the sky with no shade.

Bad light can be used for testing bad light, but it needs to be the same bad light for all cameras tested, like the incandescent light scenes in DPR's Studio Comparison Tool. That can show differences in noise more clearly at lower ISOs than daylight can.

I have said all along that its going to depend on what glass you have as to the results your going to get with this crop. F/2.8 and F/4 fixed glass are going to allow you to lower the ISO range and stay in the sweet spot in terms of ISO to get better results...Looks to me that anything below 6400 on this R7 is no problem and that 6400 the noise start to come into play....Im going to go on a limb and say that 12800...based on what I see...in good light is going to be a usable file....Also....from what I am seeing in most of the testers...the more depth you have on the shot the more the grain tends to show when you are using long glass and you are right on top....The F2.8 and F4 glass compression doesnt look as bad as the F/11 when its compressed t my eye.....I Think that the 150-600 owners will need to watch where that ISO is landing as the light goes down.....I shoot 95% of my wildlife in TV mode at zero or -1/3 on exposure comp...im only concerned with motion blur and I know from years of doing this where I need to be with shutter to avoid motion blur....This R7 is looking like a winner to me based on the ISO tests that are starting to show up

Many times though, just because you have a 2.8 or 4 lens, you will still be shutting down the aperture regardless. In many many cases, IF you are able to frame pretty tightly, your DOF will be quite thin, even at 400mm, 500mm, etc so to get an entire bird in focus or some other animal, you may very well be at f8 or more.

umphotography wrote in post #19397719
!2800.....Yeehaaaw...t​hats great news for sure...were you using adapted glass ?? And do you have a 150-600 to try it with.....If you decide to sell the R7 drop me a line

I had to search my folders to see if it was my 100-400L mkII or the RF600....

It was about an hour before sunset and the sun was going down and it was dusk, just after taking this series of shots (15 fps mechanical) I switched to the 100-400Lii

This was taken with the RF600 I rented from Lens Rentals. I also rented the RF800 but returned it early I was not impressed with the IQ compared to the 600 and the big thing is that I couldn't find things in the FOV even slow moving planes...

I am finding that it is all about the light. Many would nit pic that shot but it fills the bill for me. My usual use is flickr and FB and every year I make a calendar of my best images as a Christmas Present for family and friends.
I have a few images at Adobe stock and need to upload more.

I will be trying the 150-600C (Contemporary) this evening at the pond. My evening pond I only have to walk about 100 feet to were I set up.

Peter2516 wrote in post #19397456
I have not post any images yet but now I am trying it with tc’s and it is pretty good on AF even with 2x.

This is encouraging. I am going to wait on ordering a RF 800 f/11 until I see how the EF 100-400L II and 2x III work on the R7. I know there is also the weight difference...

Archibald wrote in post #19397564
I was waiting for the first R7 macro shots. Not that I was doubting its macro capabilities. I'm still wondering how the R7 might improve my macro photography over my 90D.

That's a hard one, as the 90D really does a very good job for macro work, and the R7 is basically the same sensor with some tweaks.

Do you use the focus bracketing on the 90D with a flash? If so, that's not an option on the R7 as you cannot use a flash with the electronic shutter, and focus bracketing on all R-series cameras at this point requires the electronic shutter.

If you're using something like a Laowa lens, that's another thing that may not provide a big advantage to upgrade, but if you're using the Canon EF 100mm Macro, moving to the R7 will allow you to use the RF 100mm Macro and the extra magnification (1.4x) is very apparent on the R7

Small things like the live histogram (useless if you're using flash though of course) and the distance meter displayed in the EVF (one of my favorite things) can be very useful.

As an all-around upgrade the R7 pulls way ahead, as a macro-specific upgrade, the R7 is better but arguably not by as such a wide of a margin.

JayLT wrote in post #19397811
That's a hard one, as the 90D really does a very good job for macro work, and the R7 is basically the same sensor with some tweaks.

Do you use the focus bracketing on the 90D with a flash? If so, that's not an option on the R7 as you cannot use a flash with the electronic shutter, and focus bracketing on all R-series cameras at this point requires the electronic shutter.

If you're using something like a Laowa lens, that's another thing that may not provide a big advantage to upgrade, but if you're using the Canon EF 100mm Macro, moving to the R7 will allow you to use the RF 100mm Macro and the extra magnification (1.4x) is very apparent on the R7

Small things like the live histogram (useless if you're using flash though of course) and the distance meter displayed in the EVF (one of my favorite things) can be very useful.

As an all-around upgrade the R7 pulls way ahead, as a macro-specific upgrade, the R7 is better but arguably not by as such a wide of a margin.

Why do you say it is the same sensor?

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #19397538
Went to the pond tonight with the R7 and RF600 F/11 it was shooting very high ISO but I am trying to test everything.

This shot was at ISO 12,800! The noise is less than what I was getting with the 90D at 3,200 to my eye.

I ran it through AI Denoise and AI Sharpen both Auto and then through LR for some color. Just did it quick. It looks pretty good to me especially since I cropped it down to less than 20%

I like the RF600 better than the RF800.

There were 10 shots of the Swallow and I got 7 or 8 that were ok, with my 90D I was usually having a 0% hit rate on Swallows. Of course there were others I took that were awful.

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This is encouraging. So maybe the R7 at 12,800 will be about like 1600 on the 80D. I can deal with that.

Capn Jack wrote in post #19397812
Why do you say it is the same sensor?

"With some tweaks"

Basically because everything I have seen, and with the recent data from Photons to Photos, it's better but seems like a tweaked sensor not an all new design. I think most of the advantages are coming from the use of the much better DigicX processor compared to what's in the 90D

https://www.photonstop​hotos.net …OS%2090D,Canon%​20EOS%20R7

JayLT wrote in post #19397817
"With some tweaks"

Basically because everything I have seen, and with the recent data from Photons to Photos, it's better but seems like a tweaked sensor not an all new design. I think most of the advantages are coming from the use of the much better DigicX processor compared to what's in the 90D

https://www.photonstop​hotos.net …OS%2090D,Canon%​20EOS%20R7

I suppose it is a reasonable assumption. Thanks for supporting your statement.

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #19397805
I had to search my folders to see if it was my 100-400L mkII or the RF600....

It was about an hour before sunset and the sun was going down and it was dusk, just after taking this series of shots (15 fps mechanical) I switched to the 100-400Lii

This was taken with the RF600 I rented from Lens Rentals. I also rented the RF800 but returned it early I was not impressed with the IQ compared to the 600 and the big thing is that I couldn't find things in the FOV even slow moving planes...

I am finding that it is all about the light. Many would nit pic that shot but it fills the bill for me. My usual use is flickr and FB and every year I make a calendar of my best images as a Christmas Present for family and friends.
I have a few images at Adobe stock and need to upload more.

I will be trying the 150-600C (Contemporary) this evening at the pond. My evening pond I only have to walk about 100 feet to were I set up.

Really anxious to hear how that 150-600 does....thanks for everything you are doing

umphotography wrote in post #19397828
Really anxious to hear how that 150-600 does....thanks for everything you are doing

No problem I rented the R7 to do just this, already close to 10,000 clicks. I didn't plan to buy one but they had one left with kit lens and no body only ones and said said no new stock for at least a month. I could buy it not open it and if I found the I didn't like the R7, via rental from them, I could just return it for full refund.

Is that all from electronic shutter, or mechanical shutter? Assuming an even mix, that would be 8 minutes of continuous shooting to test out bursts.

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #19397840
No problem I rented the R7 to do just this, already close to 10,000 clicks. I didn't plan to buy one but they had one left with kit lens and no body only ones and said said no new stock for at least a month. I could buy it not open it and if I found the I didn't like the R7, via rental from them, I could just return it for full refund.

+1 appreciate your efforts and looking forward to your results.

Regardless of whether you end up keeping the R7 or not, I think this will go down as *the* most thoroughly researched equipment decision in POTN history!