-= Canon EOS R7 owners unite! Post photos and discuss.

Bianchi wrote in post #19400477
Overall it seems to be a nice new feature, but as you say, not very user friendly to activate fast. Maybe there a workaround yet to be discovered, or a firmware update will resolve that.

Another issue is you have to use Canon software at this time to extract the Roll to get to the CR3 files you want, hopefully, eventually you will be able to use other software editors to do that. Once again more steps to get to your CR3 file.

On a scale of 1-10 a 5 for user friendly. The best thing I could see it for is, when your waiting for a bird to fly from a perch, you will get that series of shots, so long as you keep that shutter 1/2 down prior to releasing shutter .

I agree with your assessment. Perched birds taking off is a great use case. Or perhaps a heron about to lunge on a pray, etc. Anything where you are waiting for action to take place, but you don't know when it will happen exactly and you can't just start a burst early because you might fill up the buffer before the action takes place. Another example could be a baseball batter where you can have focus on the batter and wait for the swing to press the button.

A couple of notes on usability.

1. In DPP I didn't find an easy way to extract all the frames you are interested in from a sequence. You can set a begin frame and end frame and then trim off the rest to generate a reduced sequence so you don't have to store the irrelevant frames before and after the action you are interested in. However, there was no way to automatically extract all the images in the sequence into individual .CR3 files. You have to manually do it one by one. A bit painful. I also hope once other software packages start supporting this it will be more user friendly.

2. The camera seems to be constantly writing to the card while you half-press the shutter button. This can potentially chew up your SD card's endurance and/or put its indirection system into a poor state for the rest of the shoot. I haven't heard anything about this anywhere, but something I worry about.

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19400498
Looking forward to the shots.

I keep checking the email but not yet ....

Have you emailed park cameras Lester?

I did but got a very vague answer ... I think I ordered the day after you.

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19400504
I was surprised to get the email, Lester. I hadn't expected that at all. I was thinking I would be lucky if it were here before August. So, you never know.
Are you also checking shops yourself? That's how I got my R6 as suddenly a shop, other than the one I had pre-ordered the R6, had stock. And I got it.

Tbh there are no shops close to me now, even the Jessops in Basingstoke has gone.

PinholeR5 wrote in post #19400508
I agree with your assessment. Perched birds taking off is a great use case. Or perhaps a heron about to lunge on a pray, etc. Anything where you are waiting for action to take place, but you don't know when it will happen exactly and you can't just start a burst early because you might fill up the buffer before the action takes place. Another example could be a baseball batter where you can have focus on the batter and wait for the swing to press the button.

A couple of notes on usability.

1. In DPP I didn't find an easy way to extract all the frames you are interested in from a sequence. You can set a begin frame and end frame and then trim off the rest to generate a reduced sequence so you don't have to store the irrelevant frames before and after the action you are interested in. However, there was no way to automatically extract all the images in the sequence into individual .CR3 files. You have to manually do it one by one. A bit painful. I also hope once other software packages start supporting this it will be more user friendly.

2. The camera seems to be constantly writing to the card while you half-press the shutter button. This can potentially chew up your SD card's endurance and/or put its indirection system into a poor state for the rest of the shoot. I haven't heard anything about this anywhere, but something I worry about.

I doubt one would want to keep all the frames, probably just 2 or 3.

Mike-P wrote in post #19400513
Have you emailed park cameras Lester?

I did but got a very vague answer ... I think I ordered the day after you.

Yes I emailed a day or so after it was clear I was not the first cohort.

I also had a vague answer.

I suspect they will not know numbers and timing untill just before they get them.

All I know is they expect the next batch this month.

rndman wrote in post #19400492
I thought you already made your decision to buy the R7 sometime ago. (based on one of your posts).

i have it or order through B&H

PinholeR5 wrote in post #19400508
I agree with your assessment. Perched birds taking off is a great use case. Or perhaps a heron about to lunge on a pray, etc. Anything where you are waiting for action to take place, but you don't know when it will happen exactly and you can't just start a burst early because you might fill up the buffer before the action takes place. Another example could be a baseball batter where you can have focus on the batter and wait for the swing to press the button.

A couple of notes on usability.

1. In DPP I didn't find an easy way to extract all the frames you are interested in from a sequence. You can set a begin frame and end frame and then trim off the rest to generate a reduced sequence so you don't have to store the irrelevant frames before and after the action you are interested in. However, there was no way to automatically extract all the images in the sequence into individual .CR3 files. You have to manually do it one by one. A bit painful. I also hope once other software packages start supporting this it will be more user friendly.

2. The camera seems to be constantly writing to the card while you half-press the shutter button. This can potentially chew up your SD card's endurance and/or put its indirection system into a poor state for the rest of the shoot. I haven't heard anything about this anywhere, but something I worry about.

Nothing is being written to the card until you hit the shutter button, it's only using the internal buffer memory for the pre-shot info. I was wondering about that myself and was watching the card activity light when I used it a couple times

I assigned the right button on the D-pad to enable the RAW Burst Mode option so I can enable and disable very quickly as when you hit the button to enable it the menu pops up in the EVF, set the options and save. Same to disable. This nice thing is that it remembers all the previous options when being disabled in terms of shutter mode etc. I was worried it would turn it off but leave it in electronic shutter or something.

I tried the option out a couple times this weekend and found it to be very useable in the right circumstances. Unfortunately I didn't get any shots I wanted to keep as the bird I was focusing on kept fling away from me when it was leaving its perch rather than flying towards me, but it was nice to practice with the option and see it work a bit. I didn't think it was something I was actually going to use when I first read about it

JackCharlton wrote in post #19400468
So am I missing something? I was expecting I could have the back screen off and shoot like I used to on the XS. But I seem to have to keep screen closed and then view photos taken through the view finder. Is this normal? Is the R7 that much smarter than me? Keep going through menus but not finding an answer.

I don't know what "shoot like I used to on the XS" means. What behavior are you wanting and maybe we can help. I went thru this a good bit on my R5, and my R7 seems to behave the same way. There are many ways to customize these new R cameras. Took me quite a while on R5 as not as much help online back then as it was new. I'll wait for a reply.

I meant the back screen was blank until I wanted to review the pictures I had taken. With the R7 it seems like of it is facing me it is always on. I guess mirrorless is just different.

JackCharlton wrote in post #19400541
I meant the back screen was blank until I wanted to review the pictures I had taken. With the R7 it seems like of it is facing me it is always on. I guess mirrorless is just different.

There is a light sensor that is by the eyepiece, and if you have camera to eye, back screen is bland. As soon as you pull away from eyepiece, it goes on. You can set camera to only be eyepiece, or only back screen or auto change. I have mine to auto change, but I leave rear screen closed 99% of the time. I can do everything I need to including review in eyepiece. If I am doing menu changing i might open screen, or share viewing photo with someone I will open screen. I feel it save battery and protect rear screen. But you can set it up to suit your style. HTH.

There are also eco / power settings I believe that will make the rear screen go blank after a period of no usage. Then you can hit Play to play images and it will then turn on and go to your images.

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19400401
LOL Yeah. I hadn't expected this at all. I was hoping, I mean, hoping, end of July.

I'm so jealous, lol. Enjoy!

JackCharlton wrote in post #19400541
I meant the back screen was blank until I wanted to review the pictures I had taken. With the R7 it seems like of it is facing me it is always on. I guess mirrorless is just different.

There are a couple of mode controls in the UM for the screen/viewfinder. P285. I think you need the first item in AUTO2.

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19400382
Same person in his setup video says he has the shutter sound on the lowest setting for this sort of reason; see his first R7 video in the field.

He noted the lowest sound level is quiet enough only he can hear it, also demos in the video.

I had seen that and have mine set at "1" so I can just hear it

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19400516
Tbh there are no shops close to me now, even the Jessops in Basingstoke has gone.

Ah, I meant online shops. I checked all of them every day. Even every Amazon in the EU!