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LoneRider wrote in post #19404119
I don’t believe the shutter type is included in the EXIF info. I’ve looked at full EXIF info on some shots and no data field exists that I can find for it

It is. it's just a little deeper than some apps care to look.

RawDigger gives the shutter mode, and that's based on EXIFTool, I think, so that should do it, too. There are many, many entries in the EXIFs.

greyswan wrote in post #19404080
Lovely shots, that background is so nice! And from a window!

Thank you - yes so pleased to have discovered this tree behind the house.

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #19404051
Jake,
They are virtually the same for sharpness but with my 100-400ii and the 400, at this point I give the sharpness edge to the 400 f/5.6, maybe my mk II is a not quite as good, not sure, was always and still am happy with it. BUT you are right the AF is faster on the 100-400ii, it is noticeable. BUT the light weight and where I use it at the pond, it is a winner. It is another horse for the stable

This was H+ on the mechanical shutter. I have found the ES with hummers to give rolling shutter and can ruin a good shot. The noise doesn't scare them from 15 feet away but any movement does. I am shooting CRaw and get about 4 seconds with H+ and the shutter held down, about 60 shots., same with ES, only time I have used the ES 30fps has been with burst mode.

If you need the added speed of the electronic shutter and want to shoot hummingbirds or other very quick flying birds the R3 is the only option. I can shoot hummingbirds with no issue with the electronic shutter and the speed is fantastic for capturing just the right pose. It also helps that it’s completely quiet. I have had no problem with rolling shutter on the R3. I am always using electronic shutter. The R7 you will be forced to use mechanical shutter 99% of the time.

LoneRider wrote in post #19404176
Hmmm, I am not seeing it anywhere in the info panel. Admittedly I have only opened DPP a handful of times, but am I looking in the wrong place?

This is a screen shot of one of my R6 files and not seeing anything for shutter type???

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I’ll check as soon as I’m behind my computer, which should be in a few hours.

ShutterMode is in the EXIF data. I can see it for my R7 files using the -v (verbose) option with exiftool. It shows as 'ShutterMode = 2' for electronic I believe.

I'm a bit lost with exiftool though - there must be a way to show just this value?

EDIT: Use exiftool -shuttermode <raw filename> to only show the value

e.g.

$ ./exiftool -shuttermode R7_I3553.CR3
Shutter Mode : Electronic

butterfly2937 wrote in post #19404244
If you need the added speed of the electronic shutter and want to shoot hummingbirds or other very quick flying birds the R3 is the only option. I can shoot hummingbirds with no issue with the electronic shutter and the speed is fantastic for capturing just the right pose. It also helps that it’s completely quiet. I have had no problem with rolling shutter on the R3. I am always using electronic shutter. The R7 you will be forced to use mechanical shutter 99% of the time.

You are correct! I only use MS for hummingbirds but that doesn't seem to bother the birds at all. However if I move to quick the get startled and fly off. For me movement is more an issue than noise.

the R3 is out of my reach as a retired guy living on social security. $4,000 last year to heat the house with oil, hate to think what it will be this year. I have already turned down and set the thermostats for heating to 62 degrees and would go lower but worried the water pipes in the forced hot water system in the walls could freeze.
I am thinking of fingerless gloves like Bob Cratchet

Achronite wrote in post #19404262
ShutterMode is in the EXIF data. I can see it for my R7 files using the -v (verbose) option with exiftool. It shows as 'ShutterMode = 2' for electronic I believe.

I'm a bit lost with exiftool though - there must be a way to show just this value?

EDIT: Use exiftool -shuttermode <raw filename> to only show the value

e.g.

$ ./exiftool -shuttermode R7_I3553.CR3
Shutter Mode : Electronic

https://exiftool.org/g​ui/

Using Gui, (it's a Windows app) there is a workspace manager. You can choose what data to display. So you can just choose shutter mode.
You can save that workspace. If you leave it alone, workspace settings will not change next time you open Gui.
It can be a faster way to check multiple files.

12,800
overcast here this morning so decided to see what I would get with 12,800 and the P mode.

only processing was using AI Denoise with the Severe Noise sliders and then on the second image I also use LR Luminescence slider and detail to smooth it a bit.

It is not good for large images for but for FB and flickr and to friends in email it will work for me. It would also work for my 8 1/2 x 11 calendars I give as presents.

1st image AI Denoise only
2nd image AI Denoise and Luminescence slider

Northern Rough Wing Swallow

John Sheehy wrote in post #19404195
It is. it's just a little deeper than some apps care to look.

RawDigger gives the shutter mode, and that's based on EXIFTool, I think, so that should do it, too. There are many, many entries in the EXIFs.

It's not that those program "cares to look", it is just that the code was only programmed to look for some tags and display the data associated with that data.

LoneRider wrote in post #19404176
Hmmm, I am not seeing it anywhere in the info panel. Admittedly I have only opened DPP a handful of times, but am I looking in the wrong place?

This is a screen shot of one of my R6 files and not seeing anything for shutter type???

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What version of DPP are you using? Is it the most current one? The newer code probably fetches that data as Levina suggests.

Capn Jack wrote in post #19404319
It's not that those program "cares to look", it is just that the code was only programmed to look for some tags and display the data associated with that data.

What version of DPP are you using? Is it the most current one? The newer code probably fetches that data as Levina suggests.

Newest version for Mac

LoneRider wrote in post #19404320
Newest version for Mac

And the latest version still not Apple Silicon...SMH

Well, this is weird. I looked in DPP and I can't find it any longer. And I swear the info was there. In October 2020 I asked if the shutter mode could be somehow saved in the exif. I could see it in DPP but as I had to convert the raw files to DNG's the info was lost. Here's the comment:

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19143739
By the way, is there a way to see if an image was taken with the ES or MS? In the exif I mean. DPP has the info but I have to convert the files to DNG (old system) and no other app I have includes it in the exif.

So either it's a setting somewhere or it's not included anymore with the R7. I've looked for R6 raw files from 2020 but I have none, everything is DNG. Maybe somebody can try looking at a file from the R5 or R6 from late 2020?

I was and am running version 4.14.0 on my Mac.

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19404328
Well, this is weird. I looked in DPP and I can't find it any longer. And I swear the info was there. In October 2020 I asked if the shutter mode could be somehow saved in the exif. I could see it in DPP but as I had to convert the raw files to DNG's the info was lost. Here's the comment:

So either it's a setting somewhere or it's not included anymore with the R7. I've looked for R6 raw files from 2020 but I have none, everything is DNG. Maybe somebody can try looking at a file from the R5 or R6 from late 2020?

I was and am running version 4.14.0 on my Mac.

The R7 RAW files have it. For an R7 .cr3 file that used EFCS it has one entry that says "Mechanical" and then another that says "Electronic first curtain".

John Sheehy wrote in post #19404349
The R7 RAW files have it. For an R7 .cr3 file that used EFCS it has one entry that says "Mechanical" and then another that says "Electronic first curtain".

Yeah, see? That's what it said back in October 2020, something like: "shutter mode: mechanical "or "shutter mode: electronic". But the shots I took last week with the R6, nothing. I have no idea what changed. Or if it is a setting somewhere.