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Jun 25, 2022 08:51 |  #1

Will you please fix the problem that you have created.
For years we had Lightroom. Then you developed a Cloud based system which is great, only to be called Lightroom…..
The Original Lightroom is now Lightroom Classic……
As people refer to Lightroom, we must stop and dig deep and realize which one they are referring to, again Lightroom (Cloud Based) or Lightroom Classic.
STOP the MADNESS!
A Simple Solution…..
Lightroom Classic and wait for it…………. wait for it….

Cloudroom.


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Jun 25, 2022 11:40 |  #2

Adobe forever changes its licensing, giving new names and prices to the licensing packages and terms (which are often later reversed!)
Adobe changes its product naming and licensing structure (lookit 'Photoshop' over the years)


  1. In the beginning Photoshop was the pixel editor / graphic arts tool.
  2. Then Adobe purchased what was to become Lightroom, and about the same time released additional Photoshop modules to provide rudimentary data management and RAW conversion to the pixel editor.
  3. Then Adobe 'bundled' it all under the 'Photoshop CSn' naming, but it was still the same concept as the multimodule Photoshpp that was launched in parallel to Lightroom.
  4. Then Adopbe decided to change to the subscription model, and renamed it 'Photoshop CC', while later adding extra cost software apps, collectively under the same name. They further 'hide' the existence of separate modules for data management and for RAW conversion.
  5. Then Adobe decided to repackage a version 'for the photographer' (pink box) and subscribe it for $10/mo subscription


Adobe first started the confusion in Lightroom a long time ago


  1. Lightroom 6 in 2015 and launching Lightroom CC in 2016, and
  2. then renaming their Lightroom versions, for no consistency from LR6 to the successor to LR6 with Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic CC (unofficially: version 7.0) released in 2017.
  3. Adobe Lightroom CC was the online cloud-based version of Adobe's Lightroom application as an alternative to Lightroom Classic CC.
  4. What was 'Lightroom CC' became 'Lightroom Classic', and Adobe offered 'Lightroom CC' in 2018 which is entirely different from what was called Lightroom CC previously!


Folks often blame Adobe developers. The finger of blame rightfully belongs in Marketing/Product Management and the executives who backed the recommendations from them.

As for licensing prices, in May 2019 Adobe tried to offer packages of services at one set of prices on their website (doubling their prices!), and then they reversed themselves ...five hours after I captured a screenshot of their packaging and posted it on POTN in a thread, Adobe changed what was on their website again!

You expect Adobe to make sense of things?! :rolleyes:

Amit Singh has been at the reins since 2016...he is the one heading the chaos. He comes from Starbucks, before that Nintendo, before that American Express. Need more be said about the why of the chaos?!

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Jun 26, 2022 12:06 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #3

And I forgot about Lightroom Mobile…..

Now we have

Lightroom = Lightroom Classic
Cloudroom
Mobileroom


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May 16, 2023 06:21 |  #4

Sorry to hear about the confusion caused by Adobe's naming and licensing changes. It can definitely be frustrating. I stumbled upon this thread while looking for similar info, so apologies for reviving it.




  
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May 16, 2023 06:45 as a reply to  @ Stevenadry's post |  #5

No apologies needed Stevenadry.
The confusion goes on and on…


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May 16, 2023 07:15 |  #6

Well we have had 6 years to adjust to it. :-) There are really only 2. LrC which is the desktop version and Lr which is the cloud version. A quick search will provide multiple sites including YouTube that explain it in a few minutes. Just saying.

LrC or Lr in the search field produced pages of information.

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May 16, 2023 07:35 |  #7

The most poplar plan is the Photo Plan because it offers LrC, Lr and PS. This is from the install app. As you can see it only offers two choices and Lr includes mobile and web. It says Editing, masking, and presets for either - in the cloud or on the desktop and what both are best for. I've never installed Lr because I prefer to store my files locally.

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May 24, 2023 14:09 |  #8

Sorry to hear about the confusion caused by Adobe's naming and licensing changes. It can definitely be frustrating. I stumbled upon this thread while looking for similar info, so apologies for reviving it.




  
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May 24, 2023 14:42 |  #9

Stevenadry wrote in post #19522520 (external link)
Sorry to hear about the confusion caused by Adobe's naming and licensing changes. It can definitely be frustrating. I stumbled upon this thread while looking for similar info, so apologies for reviving it.

That's one of the things I like about Adobe, crowd-sourced support. There are enough users that, if you have a question, someone on the internet has probably answered it, and those answers are often better explained than the company documentation.

I wrote specialized corporate software for a lot of years, but I never used that software much myself. I knew the intricacies of it, but the daily end users of my software often found ways to get more out of it than I designed it for. "Oh, you're using it like that? Nice."


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May 24, 2023 16:41 |  #10

Stevenadry wrote in post #19522520 (external link)
Sorry to hear about the confusion caused by Adobe's naming and licensing changes. It can definitely be frustrating. I stumbled upon this thread while looking for similar info, so apologies for reviving it.

That's no problem. You never know who may benefit from a thread. I don't why but I never had an issue with with. It as A or B. A was the ground, B was the sky and I just matched the names to that. I read several threads about this. I bet any names they chose would have ticked someone off :-)


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May 24, 2023 16:46 |  #11

drsilver wrote in post #19522530 (external link)
That's one of the things I like about Adobe, crowd-sourced support. There are enough users that, if you have a question, someone on the internet has probably answered it, and those answers are often better explained than the company documentation.

I wrote specialized corporate software for a lot of years, but I never used that software much myself. I knew the intricacies of it, but the daily end users of my software often found ways to get more out of it than I designed it for. "Oh, you're using it like that? Nice."

I don't imagine too many people that purchase higher end software like C1, DXO, ON1, Adobe, etc without asking some questions first.


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May 24, 2023 18:06 |  #12

digital paradise wrote in post #19522587 (external link)
I don't imagine too many people that purchase higher end software like C1, DXO, ON1, Adobe, etc without asking some questions first.

Yep, and the best answers come from the respective user communities. Adobe has the most users.


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