-= Canon EOS R6 Mark II owners unite! Post photos and discuss.

digital paradise wrote in post #19563920
I had to correct this post.

I prefer the R6II controls as well. I shoot with both in Manual and Auto ISO. I use the wheel for EC for both R7 and R6II but had to move Aperture to the lens ring on the R7. My least used adjustment anyway.

On the R7 I had to assign Spot focus to the DOF. On the R6II (and my old R5) I had that mapped to the AF point selector. Can't map the magnifier for AF on the R7. I've never liked the DOF location but again it is least used AF mode.

One thing about manual. It's the only mode where you can swap Aperture and Shutter Speed between the top and back dials.

Yeah on the R7 i have the aperture on the lens for manual mode and ISO on the rear dial. If in Av exp comp on the rear dial and ISO on the lens ring but that is not that easy to use.

How are people getting on with the electronic level?

I used this for some architectural shots at the weekend but still ended up with some toombstoning with lateral walls.

Checking the following day it seemed the level was ok.

I am assuming this is finger trouble on my part but wondered what others experience was.

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19564729
How are people getting on with the electronic level?

I used this for some architectural shots at the weekend but still ended up with some toombstoning with lateral walls.

Checking the following day it seemed the level was ok.

I am assuming this is finger trouble on my part but wondered what others experience was.

It's the sneeky / techie way of doing TS-e shift adjustments....level with center....then use the shift...it's super easy and a lot easier then adjusting by eye.

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19564729
How are people getting on with the electronic level?

I used this for some architectural shots at the weekend but still ended up with some toombstoning with lateral walls.

Checking the following day it seemed the level was ok.

I am assuming this is finger trouble on my part but wondered what others experience was.

I find the electronic level very helpful for rotation around the axis of the lens (left up or down, right down or up). This was a feature of all my cameras starting with the 60D. It is fairly easy to use hand held.

The R6II has also a level for the axis (horizontal, up or down). I find it more difficult to use handheld, BUT, keeping the lens axis perfectly horizontal, gets you parallel vertical walls. I learned how to use this (keeping the axis horizontal) using UWA (my Sigma 8-16 mm). At 8mm things can go south pretty quickly, as you try to fit in the frame more than you should! I like to say that I fill the frame on the upper half of the field of view and throw out the bottom half of the frame... Any minor flaws (when shooting hand held) I fix in post. A tripod helps immensely, but the guard in the park would not allow it!

In the picture below, the full frame contained my toes showing through my sandals... There is, of course some perspective distortion (UWA lens) but the photos can be dramatic.

Shot at 8mm crop

GMCPhotographics wrote in post #19564817
It's the sneeky / techie way of doing TS-e shift adjustments....level with center....then use the shift...it's super easy and a lot easier then adjusting by eye.

Yeah that was what I was doing level the camera, adjust shift for view.

Checking the following day the electronic level errors were:

Format____ Up/dn ____ Tilt
---------------
Horz ___ None___ 0.86 deg
Vert ____ None ___None

Canon aparantly spec them at +\- 1 deg should be ok for 24mm or even 17mm.

digital paradise wrote in post #19563920
I had to correct this post.

I prefer the R6II controls as well. I shoot with both in Manual and Auto ISO. I use the wheel for EC for both R7 and R6II but had to move Aperture to the lens ring on the R7. My least used adjustment anyway.

On the R7 I had to assign Spot focus to the DOF. On the R6II (and my old R5) I had that mapped to the AF point selector. Can't map the magnifier for AF on the R7. I've never liked the DOF location but again it is least used AF mode.

One thing about manual. It's the only mode where you can swap Aperture and Shutter Speed between the top and back dials.

I've had the R7 for about a month or so and just got an R6II. I came from a 7D2 and 5D3 combo. I loved that their controls were nearly identical. I have been using the R7 longer, but after a few days playing with the R6II, I am favoring the R7 controls at this point. And the fact that they are SO different is just frustrating. Maybe the R8 would have been a better companion in hind site, but I did not like the idea of an uncovered sensor when swapping lenses (which I a lot in the field) and IBIS on my full frame body seems more useful than on the cropped body that I use more for sports. My real goal is to see if I can get by with just the full frame and get rid of the R7, but as much as I'm loving the limited time I've spent with the R6II, I think the reach is going to cause me to keep the R7.

convergent wrote in post #19564912
I've had the R7 for about a month or so and just got an R6II. I came from a 7D2 and 5D3 combo. I loved that their controls were nearly identical. I have been using the R7 longer, but after a few days playing with the R6II, I am favoring the R7 controls at this point. And the fact that they are SO different is just frustrating. Maybe the R8 would have been a better companion in hind site, but I did not like the idea of an uncovered sensor when swapping lenses (which I a lot in the field) and IBIS on my full frame body seems more useful than on the cropped body that I use more for sports. My real goal is to see if I can get by with just the full frame and get rid of the R7, but as much as I'm loving the limited time I've spent with the R6II, I think the reach is going to cause me to keep the R7.

Interesting.

Yes the lack of IBIS on the R8 was enough to deselect it for me.

So the sensor is not covered! That is news for me, I have not checked is there no mechanical shutter?

One of the other issues I had working on a tripod was one shot was not sharp, I am not sure why; again probably user error.

The only slight question is I left IBIS on, it seemed ok on all the other shots, all sharp and no framing drift.

Has anyone else found they need to turn IBIS off when tripod mounted?

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19565066
One of the other issues I had working on a tripod was one shot was not sharp, I am not sure why; again probably user error.

The only slight question is I left IBIS on, it seemed ok on all the other shots, all sharp and no framing drift.

Has anyone else found they need to turn IBIS off when tripod mounted?

I've always turned IS off when tripod mounted. It makes sense because when you're tripod mounted you're usually at a slower shutter speed, which is likely to pick any IS-generated movement.

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19565065
Interesting.

Yes the lack of IBIS on the R8 was enough to deselect it for me.

So the sensor is not covered! That is news for me, I have not checked is there no mechanical shutter?

Right, the R8 doesn't have a fully mechanical shutter so when you turn the camera off there isn't anything covering the sensor like with the R7, R6, R6II, etc. It only has a second mechanical curtain... first curtain is only electronic. I don't know that its a big problem, but looking at the pictures of the huge sensor wide open on that tiny body looks a bit scary to me. If the shutter got bumped it would probably break too. And dust would probably end up on the sensor if it was floating around in there once the shutter opened again. It also means if you end up with a rolling shutter situation you don't have the option of to go full mechanical to eliminate it.

curiousgeorge wrote in post #19565117
I've always turned IS off when tripod mounted. It makes sense because when you're tripod mounted you're usually at a slower shutter speed, which is likely to pick any IS-generated movement.

Thanks for that. I only ask as this is the second I have forgotten to turn off IBIS on a tripod and apparently mostly got away with it.

I would normally turn off the IS on a lens, just tend to forget about the IBIS on non-IS lenses.

I will setup a C mode I think with IBIS off and timer release for tripod.

convergent wrote in post #19565120
Right, the R8 doesn't have a fully mechanical shutter so when you turn the camera off there isn't anything covering the sensor like with the R7, R6, R6II, etc. It only has a second mechanical curtain... first curtain is only electronic. I don't know that its a big problem, but looking at the pictures of the huge sensor wide open on that tiny body looks a bit scary to me. If the shutter got bumped it would probably break too. And dust would probably end up on the sensor if it was floating around in there once the shutter opened again. It also means if you end up with a rolling shutter situation you don't have the option of to go full mechanical to eliminate it.

The dust seems to be a concern for me.

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19565121
Thanks for that. I only ask as this is the second I have forgotten to turn off IBIS on a tripod and apparently mostly got away with it.

I would normally turn off the IS on a lens, just tend to forget about the IBIS on non-IS lenses.

I will setup a C mode I think with IBIS off and timer release for tripod.

Oh yes, good point, it's a lot more time consuming with non-IS lenses.

I should do a test sometime to see how badly the IBIS affects sharpness on a non-IS lens. I'm sure I've forgotten and left it on many times.

I have both the R8 and R6ii and I love them both.
I love the light weight (but beautifully crafted) R8, it's slimmed down UI, small but perfectly formed.
It's great when I want a small, light and easy to carry camera, like on a holiday!
I don't like the tiny battery, I don't like the lack of an AF joystick and the EVF is small and not very detailed.
I don't mind the lack of IBIS or the lack of a mechanical shutter.
I use EF glass and I employ a clear drop in filter, so the sensor is never exposed, it's always behind a clear drop in filter.
So far with 5 months of usage, not a single spot of dust has landed on the sensor.
I particularly love the fact that when I shoot and event with both cams...the sensor and Post prod is identical.

I like the handling of the bigger R6ii's body. The newer Mirrorless cams do eat batteries far more than my older DSLR's.
Since the new 1.2.0 firmware, I've started to get lockups.
I love the better and larger EVF. I like the high 12fps (with newer EF glass....it's why I upgraded my 400mm f2.8 to a mkII).
I like it's AF joystick selector and the dedicated stop down button.
Yes the IBIS is great, but not a deal breaker for me. The common sensor and electronics means that the files look the same and post prod the same too.

I really like them both and happy to shoot with either, both have their specific strengths and a lot of overlaps.

Some shots today from my local rose garden, R6ii and my shiny new EF 100-400mm f5.6 LIS II.
Having a 1.4x TC really open up this lens' versatility.