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Regrets Going From DSLR to Mirrorless?

 
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Jan 26, 2023 03:07 |  #31

The refresh rate is more lika a few per second in these conditions. And yes, the only mirrorless I have is the R3.


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Jan 27, 2023 17:04 |  #32

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The refresh rate is more lika a few per second in these conditions. And yes, the only mirrorless I have is the R3.

...because the sensor has to accumulate enough light to be able to show a bright 'as-shot' image in the viewfinder, I presume. And it can do so only a smaller number of times per second, therefore the exaggerated 'stutter' while panning the scene, I surmise.


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Jan 27, 2023 17:55 |  #33

The R5 camera's technology is awesome, but the RF lenses are so expensive. I am keeping my EF16-35 f4 IS, and just got a EF 100 f2.8 Macro from KEH delivered to my door this morning.

What I also don't like is Canon removed In Camera Lens Focus Correction.

I am also contemplating on getting the Tamron 35 f1.4 USD in EF mount. I figure if I get focusing issue, I can use the Tamron dock to correct it.

Only RF lenses I have are the nifty fifty and RF 85 f1.2 L.


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Jan 27, 2023 18:00 |  #34

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What I also don't like is Canon removed In Camera Lens Focus Correction.

Because it is superfluous in a mirrorless, the AF information comes directly from the sensor itself, so there is no 'need of adjustment' like a dSLR which uses an auxiliary reflex mirror (on the back of the main reflex mirror) to deflect information down to the AF sensor at the bottom of the camera...and whose position might need a tweak to be applied to match the actual distance to the sensor.


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Jan 27, 2023 19:11 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #35

Because it is superfluous in a mirrorless, the AF information comes directly from the sensor itself, so there is no 'need of adjustment' like a dSLR which uses an auxiliary reflex mirror (on the back of the main reflex mirror) to deflect information down to the AF sensor at the bottom of the camera...and whose position might need a tweak to be applied to match the actual distance to the sensor.


Well, I have had 2 RF 50 f1.2 L that I returned to Adorama and BHPhoto I think. They were misfocusing (back or front focus I can't remember. I think I made a thread about it here last time.

The RF 100 f2.8 macro also has focus shifting and an in camera adjustment would solve that issue for people like me who just simply want point and shoot without manually adjusting anything.

I also saw an advert somewhere on social media from Canon saying "if you want the best focus" send your lens and camera to canon... LOL

This is why I am contemplating buying the Tamron 35 f1.4 instead of the L counterpart because it has a dock I can use to correct or move the focus where I want to.

The lens has moving parts also, so you cannot be certain that they will always be the same in a few years or even a few months. This is the reason why people send lenses to canon.


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Jan 28, 2023 16:03 |  #36

But the point is that a mirrorless will measure what the lens actually does, not what it should do.
Focus breathing is a different thing.


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Jan 28, 2023 16:13 |  #37

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For the folks who have purchased mirrorless, yet retained their dSLR gear, WHY do you bring out the dSLR rather than use the mirrorless body? In what circumstances do you bring out the older stuff (besides in risky situations, or when you do not want to look like a monied target for theft)?


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The pros that I know keep the DSLR's for Receptions and dark venues where flash is used. IM TOLD BY VERY EXPERIENCED PHOTOGRAPHERS THAT DSLR's are easier to use and lock on subject better and QUICKER than Mirrorless cameras...Even with auto eye focus use


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Apr 26, 2023 19:43 |  #38

I will stay with my DSLRs! I see no point in spending a fortune on mirrorless as long as my DSLRs do the job


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Apr 26, 2023 20:32 |  #39

I went with RP in the hope to have lighter version of 5D MKII.
But cheaply made camera and old technology STM lenses were disappointing.

Paying for more expensive and bulkier Rs and same heavy L makes no sense to me. Same old, front heavy bulk with same old batteries, giving much less per charge in Canadian weather.

Nor I like new Canon RAW files which my LR doesn't support and converting via Adobe is just too much monkey business, with DPP 4 been utter garbage.

Canon stubbornness on AA filters is so yesterday.

I don't like any EVF. I have checked several cameras, including some with premium resolution. It just not OVF.

Also none of Canon cameras lenses are Canadian weather capable. Just splash and dust somewhat proofed.

After RP has developed known on/off switch issue and Canon wanted something like 400 USD for manufacturing defect, I ditched it.

Canon monopoly on R mount is another turning point and up to now lenses choice isn't something attractive to me.
For my needs Canon is behind of L consortium and Sony with Zeiss and else third party manufacturers.

Since Canon 5D MKII didn't lost any weight :) and not really weather sealed, I went with Pentax K-3.

I'm not new to APC-S, have Canon 500D since 2009 and got near 100K of exposures from it.

With Pentax Monochrome release, I could sell my film Leica camera for bw film.

K-3 series are ahead of any Canon EOS due to no AA filters. I have two cheap, light, fully weather sealed Pentax lenses and images are just as sharp as 5D MKII or RP with humongous EF Ls on them.
Having not front heavy rig is game changer on long hikes, walks in not ideal for Canon users weather.

Did I told you K-3 has IBIS ?

My true mirrorless cameras are Ricoh GRD and GRD III. Those are very capable, tiny cameras for street and travel.
Canon and else have nothing close to it.

I'll keep one FF camera, which is light and compact Leica M-E 220. It has mirror in rangefinder :)


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Apr 26, 2023 20:43 |  #40

As this thread has been resurrected I thought I would share I was so disappointed in the R5 and R7, I sold them and moved to an R3. This camera is a game changer for me. It is not the 1dx3, but it is as close to it I will get in the current mirrorless line-up. I love the images it produces, they are fabulous.




  
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Apr 26, 2023 20:49 as a reply to  @ Astoria's post |  #41

For 6K USD of one kilogram it is better to do at least something good. :lol:


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Apr 26, 2023 21:43 |  #42

umphotography wrote in post #19473182 (external link)
I am very well connected in the wedding industry

The pros that I know keep the DSLR's for Receptions and dark venues where flash is used. IM TOLD BY VERY EXPERIENCED PHOTOGRAPHERS THAT DSLR's are easier to use and lock on subject better and QUICKER than Mirrorless cameras...Even with auto eye focus use

Low light seems to be an Achilles Heel for mirrorless...the EVF frame rate drops when light is low, since it is trying to create an image with exposure simulation. This causes EVF lag so that a pan across the scene becomes somewhat jerky. You bring up another issue, in low light.


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Apr 26, 2023 22:49 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #43

All EVFs I have tried are failing on pan.

For really low light EVF in Canon RP was good. Amplified, brighter, not noisy.


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Apr 27, 2023 05:37 |  #44

I shoot with both (7D2 and R7) and the EVF has never bothered me. I like the amplified image and the exposure simulation.


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May 06, 2023 11:09 |  #45

I admit I was hesitant to go mirrorless. I've always loved SLRs and had been shooting with them for 40 years. I tried the R when it came out and I sold it after a short while because I was not happy with it (perhaps my bias towards SLRs made it a self-fulfilling ending).

But then I bought the R5 and it really was a game-changer for me. I still hung on to my 5DmkIV and 7DmkII because old habits are hard to break and I didn't want to lose my SLR connection. But I really never use those dSLRs anymore.

The biggest advantages of the R5 for me (besides the obvious AF and frame rate improvements) are:

1) being able to go back and forth from full frame to APS-C with just 2 button presses
2) having exposure simulation in the viewfinder
3) being totally silent with electronic shutter
4) being able to use every lens


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