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Apr 02, 2006 17:58 |  #1

Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS (Real World)
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The Photoshop CS Book for Digital Photographers (Voices That Matter)

or can you recommend some?

Carlos.


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Apr 02, 2006 18:13 |  #2

metzli wrote:
Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS (Real World)
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The Photoshop CS Book for Digital Photographers (Voices That Matter)

or can you recommend some?

Carlos.

The second book by Scott Kelby is outstanding! They also make a CS2 and Elements 4 book by the same name.

Matter of fact, every book I own by Voices That Matter is excellent! :-)


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Apr 02, 2006 18:15 |  #3

I got the photoshop CS2 for Digital Photographers. I think it is good for learning the workflow. Easy to read and apply. The other one I got is Adobe Photoshop CS2 for Photographers by Martin Evening. I found this one to provide much for technical information. It is well rounded. Great reference !
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Apr 02, 2006 18:19 as a reply to  @ RandyMays's post |  #4

Thank you guys, I appreciate you input.

I will order it right now.

Carlos.


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Apr 02, 2006 19:24 |  #5

RW Camera Raw is essential for anyone that wants to try raw format.



  
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Apr 02, 2006 19:53 as a reply to  @ jfrancho's post |  #6

The camera RAW book is good.
To summarize it in one quick post, set shadows to 0 and work from top to bottom (changing shadows last)...

  • Select a pre-set white balance or manually change the Temperature and Tint so that the colour looks correct. This is why it's still handy to set custom white balance when shooting RAW. It should show up "as shot"
  • Adjust the exposure bar. As you do this, you should see the histogram lean to the left and right... it's not shifting... but more like leaning to one side or the other.
    Try to balance the histogram so it's weighted nicely in the middle.
  • Adjust the brightness bar paying attention to highlights and shadows.
  • Adjust contrast so that the histogram fits nicely without escaping the dynamic range of the histogram.
    If you increase contrast, the histogram will spread from the center. Sometimes you'll want to reduce the contrast to avoid blowouts.
  • Adjust the saturation if needed
  • Go back and adjust the shadows. Increasing this setting will add some nice contrast in the low end.
Hopefully, at the end of that, you'll have a nicely adjusted RAW file that's nicely balanced in the histogram. Go back and tweak some settings if required... but at this point you should be close.

The other tabs are sometimes handy... but mostly you just need to change the Adjust tab.
The Calibrate tab is handy to selectively adjust colour saturation. Instead of adjusting the saturation in the Adjust tab, try it here. You can have a lot of fun tweaking each main colour channel seperately.

Change the colour space to what you want to edit it. If you're posting to the web, sRGB is probably a nice choice. Colour space is controversial... so we won't get into that in detail.

Change the Depth to 16bits/Channel and you'll protect your image against "damage" from edits. Your camera will capture an image at around 12bits... and to produce a JPEG, the camera will reduce the image to fit. If you use 16bit, you'll have 4bits of overhead so data destruction won't occur.

You can adjust the size that' you're going to. Some always use the MP rating of the camera (native res) but others reduce/enlarge the image at this point. Another controversial area.

If you know the output resolution, it's a good idea to change it here... so you don't have to change it elsewhere. If your just editing for the web, don't worry... leave it at 72 px/in.


So that's the summary... if you need more details, the book was a great resource. This is what I got out of it anyway.

Any books will help, but I find it's easier to learn from movies. I don't like using reference material... I like to learn things and understand them so I don't have to reference anything. I find videos speed that process up.
That being said, any books are sure to be of help.

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Apr 02, 2006 20:18 |  #7

Rich, you must have skipped the last 100 pages :). In my opinion, the real strength of the book isn't how to use ACR - I think most can figure that out by themseves - it's how to integrate raw format into a streamlined workflow. There is a ton of info on how to automate many processes. Some of the information on creating and editing xmp templates is very useful.

I guess it all comes down to what kind of learner each of us is. I personally don't have a preference over learning by doing, reading, lecture, video, trial and error, etc., but I do enjoy reading books. What can I say, I'm nerdy. It's good advice to look to videos - there are good ones out there - if reading textbooks sounds as much fun as eating your veggies (I like those, too).



  
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Apr 02, 2006 20:21 |  #8

You're right... I skipped through that part because I edit each of my pics individually.
I don't shoot weddings or anything so I like to take the time with each image. I don't like automating things if I don't have to.

As I said, get the book for more information.. it's a good one.


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