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Apr 04, 2006 19:21 |  #1

I am trying to get some practice shooting motion in before baseball starts here so I took a few of these geese. What can I change here? Thanks for looking!


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Apr 04, 2006 19:50 |  #2

Nice! Look like the one is still running!


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Apr 04, 2006 23:47 |  #3

Very nice picture, but you are attempting to get away with murder.
1/125" with a 210 mm lens at ISO 400 is overly optimistic. You need a lot more light and a much faster shutter speed to get away with this action stuff. Plan on using your highest ISO setting and your widest aperture and being as careful as possible with focusing. You are also at least one half f-stop underexposed on this shot.

Keep in mind that with your 1.6 lens factor, that 210 mm lens should never see a shutter speed any slower than 1/250" hand held, so you really need some artificial stabilization, such as a monopod or tripod.


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Apr 05, 2006 00:54 |  #4

Sorry -- for some bizarre board reason, I don't see your attachment. If I try to show the picture, I still don't see anything but a red x. If I quote you, I get a link to the attachment that I can select to see your image.

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About the image: Robert_Lay says it better than I could. Motion requires a lot of light. This is a little too dark for me (underexposed). You might not need to max out your ISO, but it wouldn't hurt. If your goal is freezing the action, then definitely crank it up. If you're trying to freeze part of the action (say the batter) but not everything (not the bat), you might want to go a little lower. Same thing with trying to freeze a pitcher vs. getting a blurred hand/arm. If motion is the goal, then artificial stabilization (even IS) will be necessary.

I do like the sense of motion in this shot, but at that image size it's a little tough to see if you succeeded in balancing the pan vs the sharpness of the faster moving parts of the geese.

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Apr 05, 2006 05:37 |  #5

Thanks everyone. Great help! This was taken in late evening. I thought there was still enough light, but I agree with the underexposure. For stuff like this, do you all use Tv and set your shutter speed or do you use Av or M? I wasn't sure about manual mode since I knew these geese were going to fly into the sun. Does that sound right?


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Apr 05, 2006 06:51 |  #6

Also don't crop the tips of the wings out.


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Apr 05, 2006 09:18 as a reply to  @ CanonCam's post |  #7

CanonCam wrote:
Thanks everyone. Great help! This was taken in late evening. I thought there was still enough light, but I agree with the underexposure. For stuff like this, do you all use Tv and set your shutter speed or do you use Av or M? I wasn't sure about manual mode since I knew these geese were going to fly into the sun. Does that sound right?

It takes a lot of experience to use both manual focusing and manual exposure.

However, in the long run, it will be worth the work to get there because it will be better than using Auto features.

My reasons for saying that are primarily due to the abysmal lack of intelligence on the part of lightmeters (they are dumb as a rock) and the fact that Auto Focus is too slow and is too dependent on good light and a contrasty subject with lots of detail.


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Apr 05, 2006 12:27 |  #8

Makes sense, Bob. I am finding this rings quite true especially the loss in autofocus speed when the light is not the best. Again, thanks for the help!

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