NEW 5D RUMOUR !!

I Simonius wrote in post #6287322
fairly obviously the 5D2 will have some sort of raincoat- that's a given..

It's not worth the 2-week teaser if it's not.

jbuk1975 wrote in post #6287407
I quite like a decent sized body, having held the 350d it felt weird with it being so small, kind of like a girls camera

Hey!!

jbuk1975 wrote in post #6287407
I quite like a decent sized body, having held the 350d it felt weird with it being so small, kind of like a girls camera

That, and that alone should be the deciding factor when making a purchase upwards of $3000 or so.

ulrikft wrote in post #6287379
You seem to be a slow reader simon

1) Canon does not HAVE a competitor in the price/size range the d700 is, other than the 5d.

2) "get a 1d" is just not an answer, I would like you to stop using that excuse. When ALL the competitors have features at a _far_ lower price point AND a with a far smaller body, I don't see that as a very valid excuse.

You are making a lot of assumptions and you put up _lots_ of borders for what you think is valid arguments, I don't like that. At all. Be honest, that is far better

Whether you like it or not is neither here nor there AFAIC, just telling it like I see it. If you don't like that, tough.

There will always be a point in time where one of the players does not have all it's pieces up to date on the table. At the moment it's canon wit the 5D2, argueing on merits that are about to change seems irrelvant to me.

masayako wrote in post #6287481
It's not worth the 2-week teaser if it's not.

darn right!

I Simonius wrote in post #6287761
Whether you like it or not is neither here nor there AFAIC, just telling it like I see it. If you don't like that, tough.

There will always be a point in time where one of the players does not have all it's pieces up to date on the table. At the moment it's canon wit the 5D2, argueing on merits that are about to change seems irrelvant to me.

1) I can compare the d80 to the 30d

2) I can compare the a700 to the 40d

3) i can compare the d300 to the 40d AND the 50d

You really don't see the point here.

The rule is here: "we can base our success on IQ in perfect conditions only", I disagree with this attitude. If you fail to see that the other companies are better at giving photographers handy tools that function ergonomically and mechanically better than the canon counterparts, you should have your eyes checked out. The "weathersealing? spot metering at af-points? af-assist lamps? PHEW! I JUST NEED IQ!!"-attitude gets old quick, real quick.

Let us instead just hope that canon takes a hint and gives us what we want this time

ulrikft wrote in post #6287797
1) I can compare the d80 to the 30d

2) I can compare the a700 to the 40d

3) i can compare the d300 to the 40d AND the 50d

You really don't see the point here.

hate to have to point out the obvious but this is the NEW 5D Rumour thread

I Simonius wrote in post #6287841
hate to have to point out the obvious but this is the NEW 5D Rumour thread

And you keep trolling beacuase you know my point is valid But I take that as a positive confirmation Have a nice evening!

I Simonius wrote in post #6287841
hate to have to point out the obvious but this is the NEW 5D Rumour thread

So does that mean that the rumor needs to me new...
or
That the rumor needs to be about a new 5D?

The beauty of differing expectations.

Some want a super hi-res FF 50D.

Others (like me) expect a lot more on the features side and can live with a few less pixels.

Yet others are somewhere in between.

I think we often try to assign too much intent where there was none with regards to product planning and target markets. And even if the original 5D were indeed targeted at the need-FF-to-shoot-things-that-don't-move-too-much-and-not-in-bad-weather market doesn't mean the 5DII can't "evolve" (Aha! See what I did there?) into Canon's equivalent to (or hopefully, better than) the D700.

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #6287925
The beauty of differing expectations.

Some want a super hi-res FF 50D.

Others (like me) expect a lot more on the features side and can live with a few less pixels.

Yet others are somewhere in between.

I think we often try to assign too much intent where there was none with regards to product planning and target markets. And even if the original 5D were indeed targeted at the need-FF-to-shoot-things-that-don't-move-too-much-and-not-in-bad-weather market doesn't mean the 5DII can't "evolve" (Aha! See what I did there?) into Canon's equivalent to (or hopefully, better than) the D700.

I'm sharing your hope..

I want a snappy, fast, sexy, weather sealed, feature-filled great camera

gjl711 wrote in post #6287858
So does that mean that the rumor needs to me new...
or
That the rumor needs to be about a new 5D?

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #6287925
The beauty of differing expectations.

And even if the original 5D were indeed targeted at the need-FF-to-shoot-things-that-don't-move-too-much-and-not-in-bad-weather market doesn't mean the 5DII can't "evolve" (Aha! See what I did there?) into Canon's equivalent to (or hopefully, better than) the D700.

the only camera I hope it will evolve into is something better than the current 5D. from my POV I couldn't care less what the other camera companies are doing except in that it spurs Canon on, and that is of course a very good thing.
My hopes are that we will get more MPs, better VF, better AF and weatherseling, unless I've forgotten anything that's about all I care bout for the 5D2. I;m sure others have other hopes but I sincerely dounbt it will ever be a sports /action shooters camera as a FF fast fps model would damage 1D3 sales. So canon is highly unlikely to go there. As I have said before the only thing that matters to me is that the next itterasation of the 5D can produce stunning IQ, it already does that but technology has moved on and Im sure they can squeeze more out of it in terms of DR and ISO ranage.

Since the latest rumour sites have posted 'leaks' not only are these my hopes but they have also now become my expectations. In fact it was once my expectation that it would have 15-18 MPs but now it looks like we may even be able to get A2 prints or bigger without interpolation.

ulrikft wrote in post #6287854
And you keep trolling beacuase you know my point is valid But I take that as a positive confirmation Have a nice evening!

take it as you like

I Simonius wrote in post #6288038
the only camera I hope it will evolve into is something better than the current 5D. from my POV I couldn't care less what the other camera companies are doing except in that it spurs Canon on, and that is of course a very good thing.

Agreed. The only reason I care about the D700 is because it's the camera I've wanted to see from Canon for a few years now--a real all-around camera that isn't top-of-the-line in any particular way but is capable of handling any type of shooting assignment I might face. I have no thoughts of switching; just want Canon to wake up and smell the roses, because I know I'm not alone.

Exactly what I want with the addition of better noise performance, which is almost certainly a given. Dunno about you, but I'm a bit particular about the AF though. 50D-type AF will be a big disappointment for me, mainly because that will mean the diamond layout lives to see another day in the 5D line. That alone could make or break it for me personally.

Speculation has gone up from about 15-16MP to 18 to 21 to 24. We should hope Canon waits a few more months to announce and by then we'll have a 60MP cam

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #6288134
Dunno about you, but I'm a bit particular about the AF though. 50D-type AF will be a big disappointment for me, mainly because that will mean the diamond layout lives to see another day in the 5D line. That alone could make or break it for me personally.

yeah I agree, that was a blunder on Canon's part and one I really hope they don't repeat

mattograph wrote in post #6285721
I don't totally agree with the posit that Canon has not matriculated their higher end features to their lower end models. I can think of several examples where they have done just that. In fact, recent reviews of the XSi note the number of features that have already moved down from the Mark III series.

The most glaring omission is the weather sealing. I maintain, though, that saying your camera is weather sealed vs it actually being the tank tough unit that the 1 series represents are two totally different things. For instance, the olympus cameras are not said to be "weather sealed" but said to be "splash proof", at least in their own materials. I am sure the system is effective -- I just don't know if its the same as the canon weather protection on the 1 series.

With that said, I have shot with my 40D in light rain -- still works!

I believe weather sealing comes with a more well built housing that is more metal that plastic.

I have had my 1v submerged in ocean water for a couple of seconds, by accident of course, a wave caught me by surprise. The good ol' 1v is still kicking just fine though.