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Jul 09, 2007 06:45 |  #301

indeed leak it quickly so we know what's coming and can save up more money for it


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Jul 09, 2007 06:49 |  #302

I Simonius wrote in post #3511512 (external link)
er.. the FF sensor...;)

Isn't that the same size as a bit of film.........:p


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Jul 09, 2007 06:52 |  #303

Strange... I had a reply tucked inbetween Yohan Pamudji and JohnnyG but now it's gone. I have no clue why it was deleted, all I said was that a flash comes with a price, either in hard cash or other features.

To elaborate; That's why I don't want to see a flash, it makes no sense to have one on a semi-professional camara (I don't even use the built-in on my 350D).


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Jul 09, 2007 08:17 |  #304

Sprout Crumble wrote in post #3511707 (external link)
Isn't that the same size as a bit of film.........:p

not quite;)

have a look at some of the online instructions for sensor cleaning (external link) and you'll see there's a lot more to it than a thin bit of 24mm by 36mm film, there's the various filters and electronics that go with it making it a lot more bulky than a single frame of 35mm film


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Jul 09, 2007 10:32 |  #305

Theres no more stuff in the pentaprism than before though and thats where the flash would be. I think its a percieved thing within Canon to distinguish between what they call pro and amateur.
In reality that distinction has blurred away to almost nothing.


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Jul 09, 2007 11:00 |  #306

Bottom line: I think it's pretty crappy that Canon can't afford to put a flash in a 5D! Yeah, right!!! It's just their way of saving a buck and screwing the consumer.

I hear this stuff about that the 5D is a pro-sumer level camera and pros don't want the flash. Well fine! But, what about the consumer part of that equation??? I would imagine that most consumers want it.

Oh well, what's new!


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Jul 09, 2007 11:04 |  #307

Sprout Crumble wrote in post #3512448 (external link)
Theres no more stuff in the pentaprism than before though and thats where the flash would be. I think its a percieved thing within Canon to distinguish between what they call pro and amateur.
In reality that distinction has blurred away to almost nothing.

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Bottom line: I think it's pretty crappy that Canon can't afford to put a flash in a 5D! Yeah, right!!! It's just their way of saving a buck and screwing the consumer.

I hear this stuff about that the 5D is a pro-sumer level camera and pros don't want the flash. Well fine! But, what about the consumer part of that equation??? I would imagine that most consumers want it.

Oh well, what's new!

I think you chaps may have not got it right here because the larger sensor=larger mirror=larger VF space


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Jul 09, 2007 11:58 |  #308

JohnnyG wrote in post #3512584 (external link)
Bottom line: I think it's pretty crappy that Canon can't afford to put a flash in a 5D! Yeah, right!!! It's just their way of saving a buck and screwing the consumer.

I hear this stuff about that the 5D is a pro-sumer level camera and pros don't want the flash. Well fine! But, what about the consumer part of that equation??? I would imagine that most consumers want it.

Oh well, what's new!

I think most 5d users would use a slave. Besides the fact they provide better flash, they also don't wear down the camera battery(which is already on the weak side on the 5d).

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Jul 09, 2007 13:16 |  #309

I Simonius wrote in post #3512609 (external link)
I think you chaps may have not got it right here because the larger sensor=larger mirror=larger VF space

I think it might be artificial differentiation by Canon. The Elan 7 has a pop-up flash despite its full frame "sensor", while the 3 and 1V do not. Is there something from a technical perspective stopping Canon from putting a pop-up flash on a 5D or 1D-series? Not as far as I know, but I'm willing to be educated otherwise.




  
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Jul 09, 2007 15:37 |  #310

slavik13 wrote in post #3498602 (external link)
Just saw this...

http://www.engadget.co​m …d-mark-ii-surface-online/ (external link)

Rumour at this point, so take it with a grain of salt


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Jul 09, 2007 15:39 |  #311

JohnnyG wrote in post #3512584 (external link)
Bottom line: I think it's pretty crappy that Canon can't afford to put a flash in a 5D! Yeah, right!!! It's just their way of saving a buck and screwing the consumer.

I hear this stuff about that the 5D is a pro-sumer level camera and pros don't want the flash. Well fine! But, what about the consumer part of that equation??? I would imagine that most consumers want it.

Oh well, what's new!

One issue might be the lenses that typically go on a FF body like the 1 series and 5D. I cannot use the built-in flash (on either the Digital Rebel or the 20D) with my EF 24-70 f2.8L due to the length and diameter of the lens barrel - the lens creates a shadow that shows up at the bottom of the frame, even with the hood off. I have the same issue with the EF-S 17-55 f2.8 IS at the extreme wide end. To fix it would require the built-in flash to pop up farther, and unless they come up with some sort of scissors affair it would require the closed-up flash to protrude farther forward over the lens.

My 2 cents.

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Jul 09, 2007 15:54 |  #312

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #3513293 (external link)
I think it might be artificial differentiation by Canon. The Elan 7 has a pop-up flash despite its full frame "sensor", while the 3 and 1V do not. Is there something from a technical perspective stopping Canon from putting a pop-up flash on a 5D or 1D-series? Not as far as I know, but I'm willing to be educated otherwise.

Don't know but personally would much rather it didnt have a pop up, if nothing else it would make it less waterproof:cry:


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Jul 09, 2007 15:55 |  #313

narlus wrote in post #3514027 (external link)
how could i live w/o the direct print button?

hmmm.. can anyone see the MLU button?
http://www.engadget.co​m …d-mark-ii-surface-online/ (external link)

maybe the print menu's been relegated top the CF menu as well?


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Jul 09, 2007 16:16 |  #314

Come on, guys. Let's stop staring at the "leaked" photo. The author of it admitted it was fake, and even posted an animated gif of various stages of his photoshop work. Very impressive work, but fake.




  
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Jul 09, 2007 18:27 |  #315

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #3514255 (external link)
Come on, guys. Let's stop staring at the "leaked" photo. The author of it admitted it was fake, and even posted an animated gif of various stages of his photoshop work. Very impressive work, but fake.

Aw I like 'leaked' photos- even fake ones!;)

:D :D


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