powershot G5

She is a little sweety. nice shot.
I go along with telecaster as to the crop.
what you can learn from this is, beware of mirrors or glass surfaces they throw the flash back at you.
when you a feeling like spending cash, an off camera flash like the the 430 ex or if you can find one second hand the 420ex, used bounced with a diffuser helps a great deal.
This is one I took of my youngest grand daughter opening a present at Christmas, she was just a bit pleased with a real walkie-talkie. I bounced the flash of the ceiling to give a much softer result.
http://i21.photobucket​.com …woodenpic/clair​e-xmas.jpg

Terry

Also a tip for flash photography using the built in flash is to not use the automatic whitebalance, use the pre set flash WB and you will get much warmer pictures with better skintones. If you shoot in RAW WB wontbe such a big issue, but when you shoot JPEGs it makes a big difference.
And then a 420 or 430 ex would be the best way to go ofcourse as Terry said, but until then..
(BTW what a great and happy picture Terry)

Please do not take offense, but I suggest that everyone should get explicit permission. The owner and operator of this forum did not make the rule and provide appropriated mechanisms for dealing with it without good reason.

Thanks,

Sorry to hijack the thread but I have a G5 question.

The manual says the fastest shutter speed is 1/2000. However, I was in Brighton at the weekend and I was getting an over-exposure warning with the shutter speed at 1/1250.

I've pored over the manual and all it says in the specs is the 1/2000 limit - anyone else seen this or am I going mad?

PS In the end I just opened up the aperature and the photos I took before I realised the warning were easily corrected in Photoshop (Sunday was a typical 'grey to bright sunshine to grey' day at the sea).

You are correct - the fastest shutter speed is 1/2000. If the shutter speed is set at 1/1250 and you get an overexposure indication, then you must use either a smaller aperture or a faster shutter speed (such as 1/2000) or a lower ISO setting.

If your aperture is at f/8 (the smallest aperture for the G5), then it cannot make the aperture any smaller. If you are in Tv mode, that's your limit. If you're in Av mode, then it should have set the 1/2000. In other words, it depends upon what mode you were in - so what mode were you in?

It would help if you sent us your exif data.

If you were set at 1/1250 and speeded the shutter setting in tv mode to 1/2000 it would be giving less exposure.
Opening up the lens makes things worse i.e. lets in more light and over exposes more. ( opening up is moving towards f 2 closing is moving towards f 8 ) the bigger the number the smaller the hole the less light gets to the sensor.
If you are in the situation where you have set 1/2000 sec and f 8 and you still get an over exposure warning, you must reduce the iso setting, in those bright light conditions iso 50 would be more suitable anyway.

hope that helps

I've just read what I wrote - sorry, I must have been a little monged. Thanks for your replies Terry and Robert - you could have just told me to shut up and sit down....

I was in Av mode, with the aperature set at f/4 or so (the sun was coming in and out and f/5.6 didn't cut it when the sun was behind the clouds). ISO 50.

I took a few photos across the beach towards the old pier that's fallen in the sea. That's when I got the over-exposure warning, I was in Av and the shutter speed it selected was 1/1250 - I would have expected the G5 to have gone up to 1/2000 before telling me I was over exposing, no?

In the end I closed up the aperature and all was fine.

I don't have the photos with my at work so no EXIF I'm afraid...

superkully wrote:
I've just read what I wrote - sorry, I must have been a little monged. Thanks for your replies Terry and Robert - you could have just told me to shut up and sit down....

I was in Av mode, with the aperature set at f/4 or so (the sun was coming in and out and f/5.6 didn't cut it when the sun was behind the clouds). ISO 50.

I took a few photos across the beach towards the old pier that's fallen in the sea. That's when I got the over-exposure warning, I was in Av and the shutter speed it selected was 1/1250 - I would have expected the G5 to have gone up to 1/2000 before telling me I was over exposing, no?

In the end I closed up the aperature and all was fine.

I don't have the photos with my at work so no EXIF I'm afraid...

There is an inconsistency with what you are now saying.
I also use a G5, and here is how mine behaves.

It only shows an over or under indication as a separate number of stops(increments of 1/3 stop) when in Manual Mode.

In P, or Av or Tv modes, the indication of under or over exposure is in the form of either the f-stop or the shutter speed indicator (whichever is the variable) turning red.

Therefore, to the best of my knowledge, the 1/1250 shutter speed indicator could never show red - it would have to be either the 1/2000 shutter speed going red (on an overexposure) or it would have to be the 1" shutter speed indicator going red (on an underexposure). Note that even though you can set the shutter speed to values up to 16", the auto modes will not set it longer than 1" (I suppose that is in order to avoid a camera motion problem).

Unfortunately, we cannot say with any guaranteee that the camera is incapable of exhibiting some anomalous behavior. It's just that I am having trouble duplicating your results.

The mystery continues.

I've just recreated the problem.

f/3 (Av), ISO 50 and fully zoomed on a halogen bulb.

On the optical viewfinder I get the green light on the top, the bottom orange one is flashing and the shutter speed is showing as 1/1250 in red on the LCD.

Try it and see what happens.

EDIT:
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A bit more playing and I see what is happening.

At telephoto end:
>= f/5.6 top speed = 1/2000
< f/5.6 top speed = 1/1250.

At wide end:
>= f/4 top speed = 1/2000
< f/4 top speed = 1/1250.

You're correct. The more I play with it the more crazy it seems to be. I can't say that it confirms all of your data above, but my G5 certainly does show 1/1250, at times, in the red and it does seem to depend on f-stop and on zoom. It also seems to depend on what mode my metering is in - spot, center-weighted or that other one. So, whatever craziness yours is exhibiting, it's not unique. Mine is doing the same sort of things. I wouldn't have believed it!

Findings confirmed on the Japanese Canon website (English text though)

http://www.canon.co.jp​/Imaging/psg5/psg5_120​3-e.html

I'm pretty sure this must be buried somewhere in the manual - buggered if I can find it though, the specs. just say it's 1/2000.

Not really a problem for me - but it's good to know why it wasn't acting as I expected.

superkully wrote:
Findings confirmed on the Japanese Canon website (English text though)

http://www.canon.co.jp​/Imaging/psg5/psg5_120​3-e.html

I'm pretty sure this must be buried somewhere in the manual - buggered if I can find it though, the specs. just say it's 1/2000.

Not really a problem for me - but it's good to know why it wasn't acting as I expected.

I would like to know what sort of shutter they use.
Old rotating disk shutters used to be aperature dependant to some extent.
But they never got up to that sort of speed.
But we are talking about very small opening diamaters and very small sensors, so who knows, what tricks they have got up to.