New 30D - not very impressed

Useful feature for a professional? LOL... Not a chance........ I dont believe the 30D, 5D or 20D should be the camera of choice for a true pro with 1 series bodies out there. I have been getting by with a 20D for a good while now making my living from photography and let me tell you, 1 series is the only logical way to go... I would have a MKlln right now if I didnt have to use my income to take care of more important things.

Ahh! So maybe Canon sees the 30D as a basic SLR, like the original film Rebel? I guess it's not too far off price-wise from the RebelXT.

So how did we get to the point where $1000 is entry-level for a camera? Yikes! Well, hopefully in 5yrs I'll be able to buy something comparable for $200...

Makes no sense to me either.

Not the after-market one, but the thing under the shutter release I use to hold on to the camera!

... Mike

Yes, you did stir up a hornet's nest

My take - the older bd-ed3 is a LOT better feeling than the crappy BG-E2 grip that Canon are now peddling. There are posts about this on the forums. I think you'll find that, apart from the feel, the rest of the 30D easily out performs your older D60 (atrocious AF) and 10D (better AF but still not what I'd call great). As to heavy/light cameras, currently having a D60 (with the grip) and a 1D, there's no comparision to feel etc. The 1D wins hands down. The D60 feels light and plasticky. I'm sure the 10D will be better though, since Canon did improve the body etc with this model. The 20D body is pretty similar to a 10D in feel, but a bit lighter.

As to length of age of cameras, I'm pretty sure that the current crop of Digital SLRs won't last particularly that long. Today's modern age is a throw away society, and people have accepted this method of upgrading. Sad, but true. I'm not even referring to the number of shutter actuations either

When you criticise a Canon camera/lens on a Canon forum, you're going to get some active retaliatory criticism from the diehards, its unavoidable. I've had my fair share, since in the past I've previously made unfavourable comments about Canons marketing techniques and AF performance. I swear my 17 year old eos630 focuses better than my D60, and possibly the 20D. And I'm not even starting on the artificial price premium for a full frame camera. Of course, having posted that in the past, I got blasted, lambasted and made to look like a fool by some people. Not that I really care

Dave

Look, it's very simple if you really take into account that DSLR's are new technology and are evolving week after week... I would say that in another 3 to 5 years things will slow down and you wont have as many new bodies comming out to replace the little brothers. That is why I think it's important to spend more money on good Lenses and accesories because bodies will be easily replaced and with a much more gentle price tag.... I really dont want to spend 4k on a body either but it will help me make money and save me time as well... One wedding will afford me the luxury of a MKlln and as soon as I pay off some family medical bills I will get me 2 of them... I have absolutly no desire for a 30D or 5D .... The 5D is a nice camera but made for a hobbyist in my mind.

Yup, thats a great statement to make in front of those blinded by the white.


Thats why the idea of printing directly from the camera makes no sense.

If the focusing system that these cameras used was what we had to use to shoot slides, most people would be broke.

If only the 1-series AF system would trickle down to this class of camera, maybe we'd actually be ahead of the gang at Nikon.

Both the 10D and the D60 are larger than either the 20D or 30D, but the quality of the build is about the same on the 10D, 20D, and 60D. I have not seen a 30D yet.

Possibly this person likes a bigger camera, but has not expressed it quite that simply.

Enjoy! Lon

Plenty of PRO's out here making money with much less than a MII series. I've got several friends shooting with D30, 10D and Nikon D50 ... A lot of the Wedding PRO's that shoot Canon are starting to step into a 5D .... Do you honestly think to be a PRO you MUST have a MII? Come On!!

I agree, handled a 30D at a local photo shop and it felt nice an solid, almost up to par with my 5D. I'll be upgrading my 20D to the 30D when all the hype dies down a little more.

I thoght the 20 and 30 were basicly the same body?with a few upgraded bits.The thing I don't realy like is the chopped down spot meter they have fited to it.you would have thoght they would have done the job right.

I don't get all this ramble IMHO. If your not impressed with the 30D why buy it ? stay with your older model cameras if they are better and suit your needs. As to "Pro" bodies, well yes 1 series bodies are made with the professional shooter in-mind but having one doesn't make you a Pro. I know of Pro's who use entry lvl DSLR's and some still make good livings with older 3mega-pixel units even.

Same goes for glass, I know of pro's who use consumer grade glass that alot of us wouldn't even consider. I think what it all really should come down to is what the individual wants or needs to help them communicate their visions to others the way they see it themself or helps them create the image or illusion they want or wish to communicate. But I may well be wrong, or I maybe correct. Just my view and works for me but each to their own. Perspective will always differ depending on where you stand.

I don't have much of a dog in this race, but I can assure you that plenty of pro photographers use the 10D, 20D, 5D, and the new 30D. I've even seen pros shooting weddings with the original Digital Rebel. The extended feature set of the 1-series cameras is wonderful, and in some types of photography, essential. But I can't take the stance that the 1-series is a necessary step on the road to professionalism.

So you are just like 99% of the other pro's, I have met that have to buy their own equipment. They tend to make the three cameras, you mentioned their choice.

Well I'm surely impressed. When I press the print button on my 30D, my pictures print right out of the cf slot.So take that MK1 and mk11 .