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Alvy
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May 01, 2006 15:09 |  #1

Hey guys :)

I finally got my Bowens 500Ws x 2 kit last week, and was eager to try them out on a live subject. I've done photography for nearly two years now, but nothing under a controlled light environment before, so I was very excited to try this stuff out :D

So anyway, I've spent a couple of days doing a few shots in my sitting room (standard white walls). I've managed to get some simple set ups going, both against white and black backgrounds, though so far they've been less than interesting. One of the best shots I came back with today was:

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I've been reading up on Light Science & Magic: An introduction to photographic lighting, which is an excellent book, and I've been trying to mimic some of the effects described in the portrait section.

I've had a lot of problems getting a good solid dark background with the subject in the foreground. As shown above, I shoved some normal black cardboard against the wall (the sitting room walls are white, as mentioned earlier), and have been playing with position the lights differently.

The best kind of set up I got was as above, though I still think it's a bit too light. In some of the photos featured on the book, they showed the subject's face being photographed using broad light, and the furthest end disappearing nicely into the dark background, but I've not been able to achieve this. Does anyone have any ideas on how to create this kind of effect?

More criticisms than comments welcome :)


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May 01, 2006 15:30 |  #2

Forgive me if I am horribly wrong, but when I did my first few portraits I found it was easy to achieve a darker background without comprimising the light on the face by using a lower iso and longer shutter speed, or a higher iso and faster shutterspeed...

I also noticed the black background is a bit reflective material, do you have black clothe?


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May 01, 2006 15:39 |  #3

Not yet! I need to pick some up this week. As I said, I only just got the lights at the end of last week, so I haven't thought about any other odds and sods yet!

Currently, I've been playing about with ISO100, and using a shutter speed of 1/250. Would slowing the shutter speed then decreased the background light?


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May 01, 2006 16:00 |  #4

I am no expert at studio shoots / portraits but I think using a slower shutter speed would bring out the highlights/reflections of the material in the background... hmm

Is there a way you can angle your lights so they are not directly illuminating the background?

I would expect even professionals to get slight highlights in the background sometimes, I am sure post-processing can clean up that pretty easily with darken/contrast etc...

Once again, I am no expert... in fact, I should have let a pro comment here first, I jsut saw your thread going unanswered.

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I am stumped, so if someone answers, it would be benficial to me aswell! :P


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May 01, 2006 16:03 |  #5

I think the main problem, as you've already pointed out, is that I've used a bit of black cardboard, stuck against the wall, which still goes off reflection. If something like black cloth had been used, I guess the background would have been completely invisible.


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May 01, 2006 16:09 as a reply to  @ Alvy's post |  #6

I think that's a pretty good effort :p His right eye is a little dark, though... and I can't offer any insight as to how to fix that because I've never worked in a studio setting! Maybe turning the head a little more towards the light or something? (or moving the light, I suppose...)... Maybe another small light on the other side?

Anyway, well done :)


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May 01, 2006 17:13 |  #7

You are off to a great start, from what I can see. I actually prefer short-lighting for most of my subjects, but that's a personal preferance. I'd suggest a few things though. First, click on "image editing ok" in your profile.
Then I'd get your lights closer to the subject. The reflection in his eye show that it's a very small light source, so move the lights closer. Then turn them down enough so that you are shooting at 5.6 or 6.3..somewhere around there. That coupled with the closer lights will spill less on the background. You can also "feather" the lights some towards the front of him, instead of right at him.
Give that a try and see what you think.




  
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May 02, 2006 01:57 |  #8

Thanks for the advice ootsk, I'll give some of those suggestions a go this week :)


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May 02, 2006 17:50 |  #9

Here's an example of a different tilt..I didn't mess with the exposure, just touched it up a little.


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May 06, 2006 02:10 |  #10

I'd replace the black shirt with something of color, or even grays.


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Oct 16, 2006 21:19 |  #11

It's nice but short-lighting would work better.


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