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-!!BEWARE!!- Fake Sandisk Ultra II Cards

 
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May 17, 2006 10:53 |  #1

**EDIT** more on this Here

I did a search and couldn't find anything here (too easily anyway!), so just thought I'd give a heads-up to you fine people about fake CF cards on ebay. (Mods - if there is anything then feel free to merge or whatever)

The bad news is - I got one!
The good news is - the idiot shipped it without charging me!

So I have a free and very fake Sandisk Ultra II 2gb CF card. I timed transfers compared to a genuine Ultra II, a Lexar 80x and a bog-standard Sandisk 256kb.

The method used was fairly crude, but certainly did the trick. Set the 30D to high-continuous, start stopwatch at the same time as finger hard down on shutter, hold shutter 'til buffer full (12 shots) & time until red light goes out.
The results were (roughly) as follows:
Genuine Ultra II: around 14 secs
Lexar 80x: around 14 secs
Sandisk 256: around 25 secs
'Fake' Ultra II: around 25 secs!

The card looks genuine (hologram effect silver logo on sticker), but I suspect it's a (maybe even Sandisk) standard 2Gb card. I got mine 'OEM packaged' i.e. no packaging, but I have heard of convincing fake packaging complete with hologram foil seals etc.

So I guess - buyer beware. I hadn't heard of this 'til after I got one!

Update:

I received a 4Gb Extreme IV as a gift from a family member last Xmas (complete with fancy box, pouch, mini-CD with recovery s/ware), and hadn't really used it yet. I just enquired as to it's origin and 'ebay' was the answer, and the seller is mentioned in the other thread linked above, and also here (external link). Hmm - not good I thought.
I ran a comparison using HDtach with my UDMA-4 Reader and a genuine Extreme III that I already owned. The III got 19.8MB/s burst, 19.4MB/s average, 0.7ms random access - which is comparable with the spec'd '133x' (20MB/s) for the Extreme III.

Incidentally this is over 3MB/s faster than Rob Galbraith's tests (external link) could achieve with this card using any card reader on any system in his useful tables (which does make me wonder about the validity of his results a little! ;) )


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The "IV", however, scored 16.1 / 15 / 1.1ms for the same tests with higher CPU usage - a long way off the spec'd '266x' (40MB's) that a real IV is capable of, and is most probably a rebadged (Transcend?) 100x card.


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So I'm now the not-so-proud owner of 6GB of fake Sandisk storage! I have used the fake Ultra II numerous occasions (last resort usually) and I haven't had any problems with it, although it is slow to clear the buffer and slow to clear down to the laptop - but no failures as of yet 2 years down the line (touch wood!).

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May 17, 2006 11:34 |  #2

I've heard of someone buying a CF card on ebay and getting a 512MB one badged as 1GB...

Just don't buy memory from ebay...(except perhaps trusted sellers like Kerso).


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May 17, 2006 11:37 |  #3

I guess I got lucky in a way - it does work, it is 2Gb and it was free - close shave! But yeah - once bitten and all that!


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May 19, 2006 09:18 |  #4

just thought I would add to it.

http://www.stevesforum​s.com …=78973&forum_id​=52&page=1 (external link)


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May 19, 2006 21:42 as a reply to  @ DEMO's post |  #5

One more heads up.
Fake CF cards tend to be lighter in weight as compared to the Original and authentic CF cards.


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May 19, 2006 21:57 as a reply to  @ jediforce4ever's post |  #6

Best Choice: Buy only squat from eBay.

Superior Choice: Don't buy squat from eBay

eBay is a freaking joke. Time and time and time and time and time and time and time.....AGAIN, we hear people getting screwed on eBay.

Buy only from proven sources.

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May 19, 2006 23:19 |  #7

and California has some guy running for Governor that says he helped found e-bay.
Would you trust a company that was founded by a politician.??? Makes you think, doesn't it?


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May 19, 2006 23:25 as a reply to  @ Skip Souza's post |  #8

Skip Souza wrote:
and California has some guy running for Governor that says he helped found e-bay.

Another actor? Sheesh! Hasn't Cali had enough actor/governors already? Arnie has been a joke...Lost my respect.


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May 20, 2006 01:07 |  #9

No, not Arnie, this guy is a registered Democrat. They are all over the political map here :-)


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May 20, 2006 14:00 as a reply to  @ defordphoto's post |  #10

RFMSports wrote:
Best Choice: Buy only squat from eBay.

And you can buy squat from Ebay... I just went there and typed "squat" in the search bar, came up with 290 listings!

Skip Souza wrote:
Would you trust a company that was founded by a politician.

Al Gore "founded" the internet, remember?  :p


  
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May 20, 2006 19:04 as a reply to  @ Bruce Hamilton's post |  #11

I've mentioned things like this in the past:

https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=1458985#p​ost1458985


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May 20, 2006 21:05 as a reply to  @ Bruce Hamilton's post |  #12

Bruce Hamilton wrote:
Al Gore "founded" the internet, remember? :p

My point eggsactly :lol: :rolleyes: :p


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May 21, 2006 10:18 |  #13

No ebay problems for me in well over 200 transactions over 5 years. I'm either lucky or careful ;) Let buyer beware where ever they purchase stuff from!

As to discussion of the stupidity, ignorance and rank incompetence of many US politicians, I do believe such talk is against forum rules :p


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May 21, 2006 12:06 as a reply to  @ Bruce Hamilton's post |  #14

Bruce Hamilton wrote:
And you can buy squat from Ebay... I just went there and typed "squat" in the search bar, came up with 290 listings!

:lol: :lol: :lol: That's too funny. But, that's really my point.


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May 21, 2006 19:22 as a reply to  @ condyk's post |  #15

condyk wrote:
No ebay problems for me in well over 200 transactions over 5 years. I'm either lucky or careful ;) Let buyer beware where ever they purchase stuff from!

As to discussion of the stupidity, ignorance and rank incompetence of many US politicians, I do believe such talk is against forum rules :p

Even if there was enough space to do so.


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