Adobe Photoshop CS2 RAW converter acting weird, picture attached, please HELP!!

Hi all,

I am having a BIG trouble with the CS2 RAW converter and Capture One converter. In RAW converter the file looks really weird (it has in camera color setting of Adobe 1998), see the first picture. However, after converting, it looks fine, see second picture. Now, I can't adjust any pictures because I can't see any difference. I don't know what to do. It is not just CS2 but also same thing happens in Capture One by Phase One and Canon utility RAW viewer. I don't know what is going on . If anyone can help me with this issue, that will be great. I installed and reinstalled, no use. If you need any more info, please ask.

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.

Do you have your pictures backwords? The second pic looks like the color is correct and the first one looks off. I have no idea why this would happen unless the RAW converters are not seeing the XMP file until you comvert it.

Sorry but I've not understood the problem.

Could you be more specific about exact nature of the problem - is it white balance, brightness, etc?

Also, can you provide some details about how you've set up your colour profiles for your display and a step by step of your workflow and at what point you encounter the problem.

The problems with the images are obvious but I don't see anything that couldn't be rescued in PS or C1...

Hi,

Here is what happens.

1. Take a picture in Canon20D
2. Load picture in computer, RAW format
3. Open CS2.
4. Open RAW file.
5. Then you see what happens in picture 1. Color is weird. This is the same as Capture 1.
6. Click open in the CS2 RAW converter (not adjusting anything) and you will get Picture2 where it looks normal.


The color profile I use is my monitor profile. I have also tried Adobe 1998, sRGB and everything else is the same RAW file looks weird. Please let me know if you need anymore info. Thank you.

It sounds to me like your white balance is off, and CS2 is fixing it for you.. If you don't want CS2 altering your image press ctrl+u when the RAW converter opens.

describe what you are seeing that is weird, as i personally can't see anything that you would consider weird......... apart from incorrect wb.

When you first open a RAW image in ACR versions appropriate for PSCS2, I think the Color Temperature is by default set to the "As Shot" WB setting. Under those conditions it would not be unusual to see what looks like a poor color balance - the reason being that there is quite a range of color temperatures that might be found from the hundreds of different designs of Tungsten filament lamps. There is really no one color temperture that could be provided in the camera that would give a perfect color balance, given a randomly chosen light bulb.

Even worse, in my opinion is the Auto setting for Color balance.

For what it's worth, the first thing to throw away when an image is initially opened in ACR, is the color temperature settings. It's so easy to just use the eye dropper to pick a spot that you know should be neutral and bink on it. If there is no neutral colored object in the scene, then it is totally the responsibility of the operator to set that color temperature to whatever he likes.

Do the red arrows in your images have any relevance to a problem? I can't see why they are there.

you said that if you make changes with the converter you can not see the results until the image is opened in photoshop? make sure the preview button is checked.

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.

Hi all,

I apologize for not explaining the problem clearly.

I did not have this problem until recently. When I open up RAW files in CS2, the pictures looks fine, just like PICTURE 2. I have opened up this particular file in CS2, CAPTURE ONE and CANON UTILITY before and all the color is fine (as picture 2). Now, when I open up RAW in CS2, CAPTURE ONE and CANON UTILITY it looks like PICTURE 1 where the picture seem to be missing some colors and details. WITHOUT CHANGING A THING, and I press OPEN in CS2, the jpeg will look fine, like PICTURE 2.

Now, if I change the color setting in CS2 from my monitor profile to ADOBE 1998, PICTURE 2 will now look like PICTURE 1.

I don't know if I am making the issue clear or not. Please let me know. Thank you.

I hope this helps to be able to see the difference between the two

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.

No - sorry, but it is not clear to me, at all.

1) I see no point whatsoever in arbitrarily changing the Working RGB profile and expecting images to look the same. There is no point in that that I know of.

2) It is unprecedented in my limited experience to use the monitor profile as the Working RGB profile. Again, I don't see the point of doing that.

3) I suggest that you might set the Working RGB profile to sRGB and leave it. Then I suggest making a study of one of the better books covering PSCS or PSCS2 an learn what makes a good set of color management settings and when to change them.

If you are looking for a simple minded set of starting values for your color settings and a very rudimentary explanation of how to decide what settings to use, try my tutorial on Color Management Policies as listed below.

The Tutorial on Color Management Policy is at frame 33 in the following thread:
https://photography-on-the.net …thread.php?t=34​606&page=3

Thank you for your help. I am sorry that I am not able to make this issue clear. This member is having the same issue as I am. Maybe his explanation is better than mine. If you all have a chance, here it is https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=172138

I looked at the thread to which you refer.

It looks like bmb has concluded that his problem was fixed by adding in that Microsoft Control Panel feature called "Color" (shown below). I added that as soon as I heard about it back in July of 2005. It's easy to forget that it's there.

I don't think that's the whole story - just one piece in a very, very complicated jigsaw puzzle called "color management", which often turns out to be "color mis-management"

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.

Robert_Lay wrote:
I looked at the thread to which you refer.

It looks like bmb has concluded that his problem was fixed by adding in that Microsoft Control Panel feature called "Color" (shown below). I added that as soon as I heard about it back in July of 2005. It's easy to forget that it's there.

I don't think that's the whole story - just one piece in a very, very complicated jigsaw puzzle called "color management", which often turns out to be "color mis-management"

Yes, I have solved the problem as well. There were two AdobeRGB 1998. One of them is ADOBE1998 and the other is ADOBE(1998). I choose the wrong one and did not know about it. Now the right one is choosen, ADOBE1998, and all is fine. Dell should address this issue. Thank you for your help. Hope others who have this problem can find this thread.

It sounds as if the issue is solved - but here you make the same mistake that many others have made. Your RGB working space should be a device independent colour space, such as sRGB or Adobe RGB - not a monitor profile.

The monitor profile is set in the operating system and Photoshop picks it up from there. If you use a hardware calibrator, normally the calibrator does everything that's necessary when you reprofile (the exception being dual monitors on Windows XP, which usually needs sorting out with the Color Powertoy).

The only exception I'm aware of to the rule that you don't set the monitor profile in an application is the PC version of Canon Digital Photo Professional (I don't know about the Mac version). In the PC version of DPP, you need to set the profile in Tools -> Preferences, Color Management tab, select Monitor profile in the second box, and press Browse to choose the correct profile. I really wish Canon would fix this.


David