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Problem with my 20D... Help!

 
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May 23, 2006 16:52 |  #1

Now the problem that I have with the camera is with the pictures brightness... even if I get the ISO to 200 or 1600 inside my office... the brightness stays almost the same...

How can I fix this... help...:(

Here are some examples... All pictures were taken in P MODE and with the same lens (Tamron 28-75mm)

ISO 100 - 1/50, F3.5
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ISO 200 - 1/80, F4.0
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ISO 400 - 1/100, F5.0
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ISO 800 - 1/160, F5.6
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May 23, 2006 16:56 |  #2

Unless you're in Manual mode, the camera will keep adjusting the other two parameters (aperture and shutter speed) to get a well exposed shot.


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May 23, 2006 16:59 |  #3

So it doesn't matter if I use ISO 100 or ISO 1600, the camera will adjust the aperture and shutter speed when I'm in P MODE?




  
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May 23, 2006 17:02 |  #4

that is correct


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May 23, 2006 17:05 |  #5

So using the Camera on P MODE is not that great after all.... I'll stick to Full Manual...




  
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May 23, 2006 17:09 |  #6

yeah, P and green box are no fun... Get out there and experiment! :)


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May 23, 2006 17:10 |  #7

I guess is time to move on and jump to the M...

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May 23, 2006 18:28 |  #8

If you've not had much experience with metering, then you can use these photos as an example of how the SS and apeture work together. In each photograph, the amount of light being exposed to the sensor is the same, i.e... larger apeture/shorter shutter, or small apeture/longer shutter. The end result was the same amount of light which gave the same brightness. In "P" Mode, you are letting the camera choose some of the variables to achieve the "proper" exposure. Even though these images look the same, there is a variable, which is difficult to see here. It is the DOF. I'm working on a drawing that I think will help explain the DOF considerably, because working in the optical industry, it is something I deal with almost daily. Take these photos and use them as a guide for experimentation. Put your camera on "M", set your apeture, ISO, and SS to the same as one of these photos, then start changing just one, for example, your apeture. take a photo with every possible different f/stop and see what it does, then go back to the original numbers and change only the SS, then do it again with changing the ISO. You will start to see what difference these settings make, and also how they interact with each other

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May 23, 2006 18:55 |  #9

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to accomplish.... The camera is programed internally to try and get a perfect exposure regardless of ISO, aperture or shutter speed in all modes but M. Whether you know it or not, you paid big money for this :)

Your office shots all look properly exposed. If your aim is to over or underexpose the shots use the Exposure Compensation feature of the camera.. Adding -EV will give you dark pictures and adding +EV will make them light. This works in P, Av and Tv.

You should get a book on basic photography. It will explain all this to you :)




  
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May 23, 2006 19:02 |  #10

P mode is considerably different from the green square. You can adjust the shutter and f-stop in P mode, they just go in tandem to maintain the proper exposure. But it does allow some experimenting with DOF and motion blur. You also can control the settings on the camera in P mode that become atuomatic in the green square mode. The camera will not/can not guarantee good exposure just because it is in P mode. It still has to work withing the ISO you've set and the min/max aperature of the lens you are using.

And if you aren't comfortable with fast changes in variable lighting then P mode works great.

BTW - I like the image(s). Neat composition and light.


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May 25, 2006 14:20 as a reply to  @ Titus213's post |  #11

Titus213 wrote:
P mode is considerably different from the green square. You can adjust the shutter and f-stop in P mode, they just go in tandem to maintain the proper exposure. But it does allow some experimenting with DOF and motion blur. You also can control the settings on the camera in P mode that become atuomatic in the green square mode. The camera will not/can not guarantee good exposure just because it is in P mode. It still has to work withing the ISO you've set and the min/max aperature of the lens you are using.

And if you aren't comfortable with fast changes in variable lighting then P mode works great.

BTW - I like the image(s). Neat composition and light.

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