Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Digital Cameras 
Thread started 01 Jun 2006 (Thursday) 10:31
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

XT night focussing

 
rhys
Dis-Membered
Avatar
5,351 posts
Likes: 2
Joined May 2006
Location: Columbia SC
     
Jun 01, 2006 10:31 |  #1

Is there anything that I can use with my XT to make it easier to focus at night? Thus far all I've got that helps is my 420EX. The only problem being that I have to switch the lens from AF to MF and then switch the flash off before I take the photo. It's a bit cumbersome. Is there any way of gaining IR focussing but without having to carry a flash?


Rhys

The empire conquers yet more galaxies:
www.sageworld.co.uk (external link)
www.sageworld.org (external link)
www.sagephotoworld.com (external link)
Blog: http://360.yahoo.com/t​hunderintheheavens (external link)

Free cheese comes only in mousetraps

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Dew
Senior Member
Avatar
395 posts
Joined Apr 2005
Location: UK
     
Jun 01, 2006 10:35 |  #2

I think there may be a way of disabling flash, but retaining af assist with a CF (maybe not on a 350). I can't remember from memory!

o.k. - just checked CF list, and on the 350 you haven't got "07. Flash firing (Fires, does not fire)" which may have let you use the external assist without firing flash.

your built-in flash should do a af-assist strobe type affair, but probably not much use at longer ranges. What kind of situation/shots are you trying?

maybe a combination of "05. AF-assist beam (Emits, Does not emit, Only ext. flash emits)" and the 'flash-off' shooting mode? (Although I have a feeling this will probably also turn off the external AF-assist!).


EOS 1D MkIV | EOS 40D | BG-E2N | EOS 30D | BG-E2 | EF 50mm f/1.4 USM | EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM | EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM | EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM | EF 300mm f/4L IS USM | EF 400mm f/4 DO IS USM | Extender EF 1.4x II | Tamrac Model 5575 Expedition 5
flickr sets (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
superdiver
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
9,862 posts
Likes: 5
Joined Jan 2006
Location: Ketchikan Alaska
     
Jun 01, 2006 11:38 |  #3

Shoot in one of the manual modes and the flash should be disabled....


40D, davidalbertsonphotography.com
Newbie still learning

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Juan ­ Zas
Goldmember
Avatar
1,511 posts
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Madrid - ESP
     
Jun 01, 2006 14:23 |  #4

In any of the creative modes (no automatic), the flash is disabled, you must pop up it in order to use it (press the flash button).

In order to focus in night enviroment, choose a light, street lamp or light source that´s at the focus distance you want to target, half press, recompose (or select the proper AF point if you dont want to recompose) and shot. Enjoy the exposition without flash !!. If you need to compensate EV, do it. I normally use evaluative metering and Av, adjust ISO properly like ISO 800 or even if necesary ISO 1600 if it´s really dark, diafragm wide open or near by, and let the machine choose the speed.

See this example (external link).

Or this at ISO 1600 (external link)


Cheers
Juan
_______________
My Gear
My Photo Gallery (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
05Xrunner
Goldmember, Flipflopper.
Avatar
5,764 posts
Gallery: 52 photos
Likes: 505
Joined Dec 2005
Location: Pittsburgh PA
     
Jun 01, 2006 14:36 as a reply to  @ Juan Zas's post |  #5

Juan Zas wrote:
In any of the creative modes (no automatic), the flash is disabled, you must pop up it in order to use it (press the flash button).

In order to focus in night enviroment, choose a light, street lamp or light source that´s at the focus distance you want to target, half press, recompose (or select the proper AF point if you dont want to recompose) and shot. Enjoy the exposition without flash !!. If you need to compensate EV, do it. I normally use evaluative metering and Av, adjust ISO properly like ISO 800 or even if necesary ISO 1600 if it´s really dark, diafragm wide open or near by, and let the machine choose the speed.

See this example (external link).

Or this at ISO 1600 (external link)

Yes but he is trying to figure a way to use the AF assistance on his 420 without the flash going off. He isnt talking about the popup flash


My gear

R7, 7D, Canon RF 14-35 f4L, Canon RF 50 1.8 STM, Tamron 70-200 G2, Canon 100-400LII, Canon EF-RF

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Juan ­ Zas
Goldmember
Avatar
1,511 posts
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Madrid - ESP
     
Jun 01, 2006 14:43 |  #6

rhys wrote:
Is there anything that I can use with my XT to make it easier to focus at night?
..........
Is there any way of gaining IR focussing but without having to carry a flash?

As far as I have understood he is asking for a tip to focus at night and even without having to carry a flash.


Cheers
Juan
_______________
My Gear
My Photo Gallery (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Big ­ Mike
Goldmember
Avatar
1,023 posts
Joined May 2006
Location: Edmonton
     
Jun 01, 2006 16:31 |  #7

How about using a lens with a distance scale...if you have one.


Instructor at The Canadian Photography Learning Centre (external link).
Blog (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dave_bass5
Goldmember
Avatar
4,329 posts
Gallery: 34 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 303
Joined Apr 2005
Location: London, centre of the universe
     
Jun 01, 2006 16:38 |  #8

rhys wrote:
Is there anything that I can use with my XT to make it easier to focus at night? Thus far all I've got that helps is my 420EX. The only problem being that I have to switch the lens from AF to MF and then switch the flash off before I take the photo. It's a bit cumbersome. Is there any way of gaining IR focussing but without having to carry a flash?

I think this is what you need

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/​st-e2.shtml (external link)

Also not exactly what you need but if you put the focus on to the * button then once you have achieved focus by pushing it you only need to turn the flash off as pushing the shutter release button wont make the camera re-focus. it saves having to switch to manual focus. Also use a small apature if you can as this will help keep most of the shot in focus


Dave.
Gallery@http://www.flickr.com/​photos/davebass5/ (external link)
Canon R7 | Canon EOS-M50 | Canon 24-70 f/2.8L MKII | 70-300L | 135L f/2.0 | EF-S 10-18 | 40 f/2.8 STM | 35mm f/2 IS | Canon S110 | Fuji F31FD | Canon 580EXII, 270EXII | Yongnuo YN-622C Triggers.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jj1987
Goldmember
1,398 posts
Joined Oct 2005
Location: Florida
     
Jun 01, 2006 16:50 as a reply to  @ Big Mike's post |  #9

Big Mike wrote:
How about using a lens with a distance scale...if you have one.

Thats not necessarly the best bet.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tee ­ Why
"Monkey's uncle"
Avatar
10,596 posts
Likes: 5
Joined Feb 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
     
Jun 01, 2006 17:48 |  #10

If it's too dark to AF at night and you don't want to use the flash and then turn it off to take the shot, then you have to find something near the distance of your subject that is bright enough and/or has enough contrast to focus on and recompose.

I've also heard of some photogs using a small light pen to light the subject so allow the AF to lock on it as well.

Lastly, MF maybe the way to go as well.


Gallery: http://tomyi.smugmug.c​om/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rhys
THREAD ­ STARTER
Dis-Membered
Avatar
5,351 posts
Likes: 2
Joined May 2006
Location: Columbia SC
     
Jun 01, 2006 19:33 as a reply to  @ Tee Why's post |  #11

Wow! $200 for the ST-E2. Now that's expensive! It's also pretty much what I was looking for.


Rhys

The empire conquers yet more galaxies:
www.sageworld.co.uk (external link)
www.sageworld.org (external link)
www.sagephotoworld.com (external link)
Blog: http://360.yahoo.com/t​hunderintheheavens (external link)

Free cheese comes only in mousetraps

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rhys
THREAD ­ STARTER
Dis-Membered
Avatar
5,351 posts
Likes: 2
Joined May 2006
Location: Columbia SC
     
Jun 02, 2006 11:50 |  #12

I was just looking at alternatives to the ST-E2. There seem to be some sunpak IR modules. This brings an interesting question: If I used an IR lamp of some sort - whether it's a bunch of IR LEDs mounted on a hotshoe mount with a watch battery powering them or something else - would that work in place of the ST-E2?


Rhys

The empire conquers yet more galaxies:
www.sageworld.co.uk (external link)
www.sageworld.org (external link)
www.sagephotoworld.com (external link)
Blog: http://360.yahoo.com/t​hunderintheheavens (external link)

Free cheese comes only in mousetraps

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
asfd
Member
37 posts
Joined Oct 2004
     
Jun 02, 2006 13:43 |  #13

I think building (or buying) an infrared array lamp and using it as focus lamp would work but I don't know if it would affect metering (I hope not).




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rwh
Mostly Lurking
15 posts
Joined Jan 2005
     
Jun 02, 2006 14:51 |  #14

have a try with a laser pointer, i have had some success with one




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

2,150 views & 0 likes for this thread, 11 members have posted to it.
XT night focussing
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Digital Cameras 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Thunderstream
1863 guests, 108 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.