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Jun 20, 2006 07:36 |  #16

Beautiful pictures. I really like the second one, looks like it's just chatting up a storm


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Jun 20, 2006 07:51 |  #17

I love the quailty of these shots Jim, excellent detail and natural colours.


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Jun 20, 2006 12:37 as a reply to  @ Anthony J Howe's post |  #18

Thanks all for the kind words ... these were one of my first efforts with new Sigmonster. Bit of a learning curve with this lens, but thanks to advice from Romy and Sue Tranter, I feel I'm starting to get the hang of it.
Unfortunately, I am still waiting for the heavier-duty tripod I ordered. Hopefully the images will turn out even better once I get a more stable base.

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Jun 20, 2006 15:34 as a reply to  @ post 1635782 |  #19

Rubberhead wrote:
I have four reference books that consider visual clues for the empids: Kenn Kaufman's Advanced Birding, Bill Thompson III's Identify Yourself, Master Guide to Birding Volume 2 and the Sibley’s guide to the Birds. Thompson's work is a great effort with wonderful color drawings and a clean simple approach. I want to thank you for re-acquainting me with this almost forgotten treasure.

First of all, a couple of years ago it would have been, without a doubt, a Triall's Flycatcher. However, based on range and voice, Triall's Flycatcher was split into two species Alder and Willow Flycatchers with the Willow Flycatcher keeping the species name “triallii”. All my references say that trying to separate these species by sight is not reliable. Voice is the best indication with the Willow having a much accented first note. I’ve got Willow on my life list from Schenectady, NY and clearly remember the very sharp first note. I’ve never heard or seen Alder so can’t help you there although the books show either an un-accented rree-beea or a rree-BEEA with the second note accented for Alder.

The Audubon Master Guide and Thompson’s book both point to breeding habitat has fairly reliable so…

If your feet were damp when you took the picture the bird is likely an Alder. If your feet were dry and dusty then it was a Willow.

If I had to guess based on the picture, I would go with Willow because of the very white throat and indistinct eye-ring.

Great info Rubberhead. I'll have to check some of those books out. Peterson's even cautions about habitat, as they do overlap and both birds are found in both situations. The pictures I took of a Willow FC were taken in a wet area. In fact, the bird spent most of the time over the marsh.


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