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Jun 20, 2006 19:34 |  #1

I'm really contemplating picking up a 24-70 L 2.8 for my live music shots as well as some fashion/glamour that I am working on. Does anyone have any experience with this lens in low-light situations or will I still be using my 50mm 1.4 and 20mm 1.8 alot?


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phishhead_23 wrote:
I'm really contemplating picking up a 24-70 L 2.8 for my live music shots as well as some fashion/glamour that I am working on. Does anyone have any experience with this lens in low-light situations or will I still be using my 50mm 1.4 and 20mm 1.8 alot?

I do, probably, 80% of my concert shooting with an f/2.8 lens. You should be fine...


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Jun 20, 2006 22:05 |  #3

it really depends on the club's lighting...the dark, dingy, low rent places i haunt would never allow for a 2.8 aperture to be used much, if at all...


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Jun 20, 2006 23:05 |  #4

I have that lens. I rarely use it for concert shooting but that's mostly because of my venues and that I like really tight shots. It is the lens I use to shoot boxing! :-) It is a great lens but as Narlus points out it is really not particularly fast. Are you not happy with your 50mm f/1.4?


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Jun 21, 2006 12:01 as a reply to  @ DwightMcCann's post |  #5

the 50 mm works very nicely, I just want a zoom that I can use for my other photography, and it would be nice if this lens could be usable for my live music stuff.


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Jun 21, 2006 12:12 |  #6

how does the 20mm sigma work for you? i've decided that instead of getting the 50 f/1.4 i'd be better off keeping the 1.8 version and getting another fast but wider prime. was looking at the canon 28 f/1.8 USM lens. i can't get good wide pics w/ the 50mm, and most of club settings for me anyway dictate that i stick to one spot, or lose it. and since i'm fairly short, i need to be up towards the stage as far as possible.


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Jun 21, 2006 12:24 |  #7

I find the Sigma 30/1.4 extremely versatile, but it will be quite close to your 20/1.8 (though most likely a lot sharper wide open ... mine is a bit sharper than the 50/1.4)

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Jun 21, 2006 13:31 as a reply to  @ Andy_T's post |  #8

I love my 20mm. I use it almost exclusivly now. It is a bulky, heavy lens that's very noisy but it is tack sharp (even wide open, the results are very acceptable). And, it's not too expensive (around $400).


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Jun 21, 2006 13:49 |  #9

24-70 is a super lens. Pick it up :)


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Jun 21, 2006 16:30 |  #10

Will you be on stage for these shots? 70mm might not give you the zoom you need from anywhere else. Close-ups of performers is essential for good concert photography (IMHO).


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Jun 21, 2006 16:59 as a reply to  @ BillsBayou's post |  #11

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Will you be on stage for these shots? 70mm might not give you the zoom you need from anywhere else. Close-ups of performers is essential for good concert photography (IMHO).

Good point. I often shoot with a 300mm f/2.8L and sometimes add a 1.4TC both handheld and from a tripod for concert shooting. I get my favorite shots with this lens. My next lens will be a 400mm f/2.8L for this reason. But I also use a 70-200mm f/2.8L IS for most of the rest. The 24-70mm f/2.8L is good for wide stage shots with but those are not the most interesting.


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Jun 21, 2006 17:13 as a reply to  @ DwightMcCann's post |  #12
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I normally shoot with the 70-200, and the 70 is probably as wide as I'd want to get. If I need to go wider, I'll grab the 28mm.

As an aside, I wouldn't recommend getting on stage with the band. You haven't lived until you've been smacked in the side of the head with the headstock of a Fender Jazz Bass.

Or so I've heard...

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Jun 21, 2006 22:13 as a reply to  @ Steve Parr's post |  #13

Steve Parr wrote:
I normally shoot with the 70-200, and the 70 is probably as wide as I'd want to get. If I need to go wider, I'll grab the 28mm.

As an aside, I wouldn't recommend getting on stage with the band. You haven't lived until you've been smacked in the side of the head with the headstock of a Fender Jazz Bass.

Or so I've heard...

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LOL....I'd be pissed if I got wacked on the head or even worse...had my L glass bashed into. Most of the shooting I do is at small clubs so the focal lenght wouldn't be an issue.


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Jun 22, 2006 08:14 |  #14

The way I see it is, that if your shooting the really dingy places that require really fast lenses, as I do also. Then you can get away with using flash. The only places that don't like flash are the bigger venues, with fancy lighting and bands that take themselves too seriously. I shoot the darkest gigs with flash and a 17-40l which is only f4. I get half decent results by slowing the shutter speed for background and freezing motion with the flash.

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Jun 22, 2006 22:37 as a reply to  @ smudge's post |  #15

I'm a little different; the venue I shoot in the 70-200 is perfect. The reason is I am right on top of the performers. It does not do well if you are at more than 30' from the stage, if you want to single out the performer.

What I like about it is I can get close and have a slower shutter speed than getting a long way back and zooming in. My best shots are with that exact lens.

I think you have to have that lens in your bag.

The other point I would make is if you are going to buy the 70-200 IT IS A MUST THAT YOU GET IT WITH "IS"!!!!!!!!!!!!

The IS will really help with the camera shake and let you shoot at a slower shutter speed, which will help because of the poor lighting. Even at 1600 ISO with my 70-200 I sometimes need a shutter speed around 1/60th to get any decent exposure?

I can't wait for the day that I can upgrade to a 70-200 f/2.8 IS USM. For now my sigma 70-200 and my 24-70 L glass will have to do.


The IS will really help with the camera shake and let you shoot at a slower shutter speed, which will help because of the poor lighting. Even at 1600 ISO with my 70-200 I am sometimes needing a shutter speed around 1/60th to get any decent exposure.

I can't wait for the day that I can upgrade to an 70-200 f/2.8 IS USM. For now my sigma 70-200 and my 24-70 L glass will have to do.


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