For the record, this "poor guy" is a woman!

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kevin_c Cream of the Crop 5,745 posts Likes: 4 Joined Mar 2005 Location: Devon, England More info | Texas_Diver wrote: For the record, this "poor guy" is a woman! ![]() We treat everyone as equal here - with a few exceptions -- K e v i n --
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Lord_Malone Cream of the Manpanties........ Inventor Great POTN Photo Book 7,686 posts Likes: 1 Joined Oct 2005 More info | condyk wrote: Not everyone does that. I agree. I had both. IS is good. That's why I got my 24-105mm IS L. The 100-400mm doesn't offer what I personally need over and above the Bigma, but costs a lot more. It is personal preferences and compromise. I prefer 500mm for safari shooting and know a beanbag or monopod will get me the shots in the conditions I know I will come across. Would I say no to a 100-400mm IS L at the same price ... possibly IS and size could swing it. But actually, I probably would still go Bigma at the end of the day. Agreed 110%. Not so. I have an L right now and use it a lot. I am against people being brainwashed by the 'L Fever' crowd. I'd rather they took the time to learn photography as a craft and an art rather than be led to think they can buy a good shot. By definition a good shot for many has become a sharp shot. I will simply continue to say a sharp shot isn't implicitely a good shot. spend time learning what makes a good shot. I think you will agree that is a useful thing to do. Of course, you can learn and use good glass too. They don't have to be L's. They don't have to be expensive. How about we encourage people who can't afford to spend much as well as those with money to burn? My 100-300mm F4 Sigma was better than any of my other long lenses, including the Bigma, 100-400mm IS L and 300mm IS L and cheaper than any of them. I wonder why these kinds of lenses are only spoken about by a few? It's because they are not seen as 'cool' - just having an L is somehow 'cool' I guess on the whole I am pretty 'uncool'!Some of my best shots were taken with a non-L (the 28-105 II). With that said, IQ was definitely a factor when I purchased my first L, but more than anything else, it all boils down to build quality for me. In iraq, I just kept thinking that the environment and elements would just end up eating my poor lens and camera (20D) alive and I had to take super extra precautions when caring for the kit. I never want to be caught short like that again, so L's and weather sealed "indestructable" bodies are an obvious solution for me. It's just too bad all Canon lenses aren't built that way by default and you're forced to pay a premium price for it. But then again, not all photographic situations call for that. BTW, I still think you're cool for a girly-man, Condy. ~Spaceships Don't Come Equipped With Rear View Mirrors~
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Lord_Malone Cream of the Manpanties........ Inventor Great POTN Photo Book 7,686 posts Likes: 1 Joined Oct 2005 More info | blonde wrote: ^^^i agree with all points, just wanted to be clear. and yes, i will put the 100-300F4 sigma against most Canon L lenses and i will even put money that it can beat them 90% of the time. i had that lens and its IQ is not far from the most expensive canon's. too bad it is kinda heavy. like you said, each person has its own shooting style, for me, after trying about 20 lenses, the canon 100-400 works best. mitcon can put me to shame any day of the week with his bigma.... as for what people call a good shot, again i agree 100%. i also see a trend here of people pixel peeping and if the picture is not 100% sharp, it sucks. i also see many amazing shots that people dismiss because they are not L sharp. the bigma is a fantastic lens IF like you said, you can have a monopod or a bean bag handy. i for one, am a big fan of being portable and i try to avoid monopods and tripods as much as i can which is why the extra money for the 100-400 is worth it TO ME. the buttom line is that L lens won't make you a better photographer but it can help your already good shots become better... as for you being "uncool", not at all. i think that you are cool regardless of your lenses and at least you use them and take great shots. there are many people here that have tons of L lenses and yet they rarely use it or they still don't know what a good photograph means... Absolutely, Snir! ~Spaceships Don't Come Equipped With Rear View Mirrors~
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prep Member 245 posts Joined May 2006 Location: Perth WA More info | blonde wrote: i agree with all points, just wanted to be clear. and yes, i will put the 100-300F4 sigma against most Canon L lenses and i will even put money that it can beat them 90% of the time. Blonde, if you want a SHARP 100-300, and can take a stop drop compared to the Sigma, find a 100-300 5.6L. No IS, the 5.6 is kind of suckfull, but for a zoom it cuts glass, almost into the 300F4L sharp catagory. Also old, pretty small, and cheeeep ~pr
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condyk Africa's #1 Tour Guide 20,887 posts Likes: 22 Joined Mar 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK More info | runninmann wrote: When I read all of the 'L' this and 'L' that in response to newbies asking which $200 lense they should buy, I am often disheartened. That's exactly why I keep saying the same thing ... two members who shall remain nameless: one has a truck full of expensive L's and pro bodies but his shots lack any kind of compositional value and emotion and so fail to engage IMO. Second guy has two lenses that probably cost less than $400 together plus an old body and I have never seen a single shot he's posted that didn't make me stop and think and wonder. Depends on your priorities but be sure the second guy could step up to the great gear while the first guy could never do what the second guy does. Don't be discouraged. Just don't see the gear freaks as role models https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php?t=1203740
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JMHPhotography Goldmember 4,784 posts Likes: 1 Joined May 2005 Location: New Hampshire More info | Woolburr wrote: Some of Canon's best lenses don't wear an L. And anyone that thinks that owning an L will make them a better photographer is insane. Superior equipment doesn't compensate for inferior subject matter and techniques. I agree with this somewhat. I have a couple of Canon's best lenses that don't have an L... but I have to point out that there are times when the gear DOES help make a better photo. ~John
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jj1987 Goldmember 1,398 posts Joined Oct 2005 Location: Florida More info | Jul 09, 2006 01:37 | #37 Guys, remember too that Canon's L series is almost guarenteed quality. I worked at a camera shop, and currently with a wedding photographer who has most L lens, so I'd say I've tried as many L lens as most on here, although none of the lens longer than 200mm in the L range (except my 100-400L).
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