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Firebirds! On shooting fireworks...

 
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Jul 08, 2006 12:02 |  #1

Actually it should probably read "Firestuff"? Just a few from the 4th this month.

Every time the 4th rolls around, there are a lot of questions, so I've put some info here to link to next year.

Exposure mode: Forget it! (Unless you want to go nuts & screw the shots up anyway.) ;)

TRIPOD! Unless you want to rotate/move the cam during the burst as some people have tried.

Shutter speed is not relevant as a factor in the exposure. It only controls the amount (size) & number of bursts you capture. I used manual shutter with a remote cord & the cam on a tripod. Without the remote cord, you have two options:
You can squeeeeeze the shutter carefully & just live with the squiggles you'll get from cam movement, (which might add some interest to the shot) or...
Set the cam to about an 8 second shutter speed. Hold a black card in front of the lens, trip the shutter, wait a second for the cam to settle down & remove the card for the rest of the exposure. Put it back if you want to end the exposure early.

ISO 100. There's no reason to go higher unless you want to capture the background environment, & you can usually get that with a 4-8 sec exposure anyway. Remember that the fireworks will provide some lighting during that time to help out.

F-stop should be between f/8 & f/16. F/8 for the dimmer blue bursts, or f/16 to capture the detail in the bright white ones. How do you know what to use for the next burst coming up? I split the difference with f/11, shoot RAW, & adjust in processing.

Focus: Put the focus on "M", turn the lens to infinity & forget it. Shooting at a distance, the depth of focus at f/11 will pull everything into focus. If you're really picky about this, you can focus at the distance you think will be "right" & then tape the focus ring on the lens so it can't be accidentally changed. If you do this, put a piece of tape on the manual/auto switch too, so you don't accidentally change to auto while the focus ring is still taped!!!

Someone's going to ask what lens I used. The Kit lens at 18mm works well for these. This year I used a manual 20mm Nikkor 'cause the focus is manual & the f-stops are, too. It just made things easier for me.

Here's a Firebird & Fire flower to start with.
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Jul 08, 2006 12:03 |  #2

Another flower @ 3 seconds.

IMAGE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Forum%20Junk/Fireworks-06_0041.jpg


Daisy, spider, or UFO?
1 second.

IMAGE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Forum%20Junk/Fireworks-06_0072.jpg


This was the 1st shot showing the bridge that they were fired from. There was still a very faint glow in the sky, so it's best to do these environment shots early. 6 seconds.
The next two are a little light, but they still illustrate the point.

IMAGE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Forum%20Junk/Fireworks-06_0001.jpg


3 shots: One thing I like about small-town shows is they have a budget & don't shoot a lot of bursts unitl the very end. That lets me take a lot of single bursts & put them together in PS using the Lighten Blend mode. The base exposure was 2 seconds @ f/11. As I said earlier, it should have been f/8, but RAW did the job for me (again!)

IMAGE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Forum%20Junk/Fireworks-06_0043.jpg


Another blend mode pic from several exposures. I got a bit carried away with this one! :D

IMAGE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Forum%20Junk/Fireworks-06_0030.jpg

And last, be sure to try to get on the upwind side of the show unless you want smoke between you & the bursts!
OK, now you know as much about shooting fireworks as I do. Go out & have fun with them!
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Jul 10, 2006 15:28 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #3

I just hope the folks that wanted/needed this save it for next year.
Nicely done Frank.

Along those lines - how bout setting up your Christmas tree next week so we can practice? I'll bring the Egg-Nog.

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Jul 10, 2006 16:16 |  #4

Your images are very noisy.


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Jul 10, 2006 19:53 |  #5

Your images are very noisy.

1st edited on a laptops crappy LCD. Readjusted the small jpegs to put them here. Maybe someday I'll re-edit the originals. Maybe I won't, & no one will want to steal them.
Do they illustrate the points or not?

Along those lines - how bout setting up your Christmas tree next week so we can practice? I'll bring the Egg-Nog.

I'm short a few ornaments, so forget the egg-nog. See if you can find Kandy Kane & Christmas Carol instead? :D


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Aug 05, 2006 00:05 |  #6

Nice tip photosguy!
Take importance to the wind factor if you have the freedom of movement. A remote switch is highly suggested. Also, write the tips in a notebook, you might forget them when you are there. I use the kit lens too but I will be trying the 10-22mm anytime soon. :P

PhotosGuy, if you don't mind, I would like to share these photos as well.


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More fireworks photos: http://www.flickr.com …n/sets/72057594​053194958/ (external link)

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Aug 05, 2006 10:58 |  #7

:D Where did you find this thread? On Page 57?

Nice shots!


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Aug 07, 2006 03:20 |  #8

Thanks! Hmmm lemme see, I found this thread somewhere but not as far as page 57. :P


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Nov 18, 2007 20:42 |  #9

Good tips, gunna have to try that next 4th.

Jon, The Elder wrote in post #1708844 (external link)
I just hope the folks that wanted/needed this save it for next year.

I'll make it easy for myself and bookmark this :)

Oh yeah, I found this page in the "photography tips and tutorials list"
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=52418


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Nov 18, 2007 20:48 as a reply to  @ ssidiv3r's post |  #10

Sweet Frank love the first one...




  
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Nov 19, 2007 07:47 |  #11

Oh yeah, I found this page in the "photography tips and tutorials list"

Nice to know that someone looks there!


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Nov 19, 2007 11:03 |  #12

PhotosGuy wrote in post #4344278 (external link)
Nice to know that someone looks there!


Well I'm always looking for new techniques and info for shooting and that seems like the best place to go :D


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Jun 22, 2008 21:28 as a reply to  @ ssidiv3r's post |  #13

Thanks for the tips for sure! I just missed the first round of firework opportunity this year...but there will be another as it's not the fourth yet.


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Jun 22, 2008 21:32 |  #14

I plan on trying this this year. Thanks for the tips.


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Jul 01, 2008 19:58 |  #15

Frank,
Many thanks on your fireworks tips. Armed with the knowledge you provided,I was able to make what I think are some decent images for the 1st time out. Only thing I was really missing was a remote shutter release. I now have one (Phottix Cleon) on order !
This is with an XTi & EF 24-70 L

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