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Jul 09, 2006 06:54 |  #1

Well I've had Lowepro, Crumpler, CSS, and others and really they are all a bit over engineered for my simpleton needs. They are stiff, hard to slip stuff in and out, don't take as much you might expect on the whole, have 'steal me branding' all over them and sit in the L class of rip off for the average amateur like most of us lot.

Sure if you want the 'status' ( which is in your own head anyway: no one else know a Crumpler from a shopping bag :lol: ) then spend the money; if you just want a nice soft bag that holds all the walkaround stuff most of the 'sensible' amongst us will need within our urban wonderland then I have the solution. I got it in Gap last week and it cost me around £12.95 in the sale ;-)a

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So, specific advantages: it is nice and soft so it doesn't make a rubbing noise as you walk and doesn't rub a friction hole in your pants or set your pants on fire and thus scar you for life. It is also tough. It is like a bl**dy tardis and holds way more than you'd expect and also seems very light even when full!! It hangs off your shoulder with no effort rather than constantly slipping off, it has a mini pocket for keys or CF cards and stuff so easy access, the lid flap just throws over to close (tho' it can be secured too if needed) and flips back to open, there is a front pocket for hood/s, umbrella, PDA, mobile, MP3 and more. Easy access there too, which is vital for street shooting. The strap is strong and soft so very comfortable to walk with.

It has two zipped pockets one each side. In one I have my Pentax 50mm 1.4 (the Light Maker) and my Zeiss 35mm 2.4 (the Bokah Bonker) and could easily fit a third (these MF's are tiny remember!) and in the other pocket I have my sweet Pentax 200mm 4.0 (the Mini Marvel).

Inside, I have my ultra reliable Sigma 15-30mm 3.5-4.5 (the L Breaker) and then my 30D with 24-105mm 4.0 IS L attached (the Plasticy Saturator). Which ever I am not using goes in the L's crummy but effective soft pouch.

Security ... well you can clasp the lid closed with the two ... erm ... clasps and because the zips for either side pocket are on soft material you have to hold the bag to open easily. Hard to open sneak thief style (I learnt my urban pick pocketing thievery compensation techniques in India, where some folks are masters of the craft, so I have an idea what to watch for in a bag and generally!!) Sure they could try knifing it open but the bag is so soft you would be more likely to feel the movement.

The only thing against it is the lack of internal floor padding, but you can easy get a piece of cheap foam strip and drop it in. I use a thickish double sheet of bubble wrap to take any of the normal day to day pick up and put down impact. Sure if you drop it then things will jar. But if you are half witted in that kinda way then add some foam padding. I very rarely drop things or poke lenses with branches or bang my camera into brick walls (never actually!), tho I know some here do it almost daily it seems :p

So, the proof of the pudding is in the eating ... and while I haven't eaten this bag I have taken it on a number of walkarounds where normally I would leave the camera and stuff at home. My big Crumpler is a truly great 'vanity photographer' bag, but functional for long trips and flights more than day to day walkaround. I have used it three times in as many months. I have used the Gap bag 4 times this week ;-)a

Franny doesn't come with the bag BTW. She just liked hanging around. I think she fancies herself as a model :rolleyes:

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Jul 09, 2006 07:00 |  #2
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Do you use cat for extra padding? ;)


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Jul 09, 2006 09:21 |  #3

Well said! I used to wrap lens in thick wool socks, camera body in old fleece shirt and just drop it in a backpack. High tech camera bags aren't needed when there aren't too many equipments that bump around the bag.

But this all changed when I got a few 1 series bodies and several lenses. The back pack got so heavy I had to get one with suspension system or have sore back and abs muscles. Once I decided to splurge for a back pack with suspension, I got a nice photo back pack.




  
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Jul 09, 2006 10:59 |  #4

Looks a bit like my wife's handbag... except there is still room inside :-)
So you've gone up in the world now then - What happened to the supermarket carrier bags you used to use?

[Spice (pictured left) says hello to Franny by the way]


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Jul 09, 2006 13:03 |  #5

condyk wrote:
Well I've had Lowepro, Crumpler, CSS, and others and really they are all a bit over engineered for my simpleton needs. They are stiff, hard to slip stuff in and out, don't take as much you might expect on the whole, have 'steal me branding' all over them and sit in the L class of rip off for the average amateur like most of us lot.

Sure if you want the 'status' ( which is in your own head anyway: no one else know a Crumpler from a shopping bag :lol: ) then spend the money; if you just want a nice soft bag that holds all the walkaround stuff most of the 'sensible' amongst us will need within our urban wonderland then I have the solution. I got it in Gap last week and it cost me around £12.95 in the sale ;-)a

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So, specific advantages: it is nice and soft so it doesn't make a rubbing noise as you walk and doesn't rub a friction hole in your pants or set your pants on fire and thus scar you for life. It is also tough. It is like a bl**dy tardis and holds way more than you'd expect and also seems very light even when full!! It hangs off your shoulder with no effort rather than constantly slipping off, it has a mini pocket for keys or CF cards and stuff so easy access, the lid flap just throws over to close (tho' it can be secured too if needed) and flips back to open, there is a front pocket for hood/s, umbrella, PDA, mobile, MP3 and more. Easy access there too, which is vital for street shooting. The strap is strong and soft so very comfortable to walk with.

It has two zipped pockets one each side. In one I have my Pentax 50mm 1.4 (the Light Maker) and my Zeiss 35mm 2.4 (the Bokah Bonker) and could easily fit a third (these MF's are tiny remember!) and in the other pocket I have my sweet Pentax 200mm 4.0 (the Mini Marvel).

Inside, I have my ultra reliable Sigma 15-30mm 3.5-4.5 (the L Breaker) and then my 30D with 24-105mm 4.0 IS L attached (the Plasticy Saturator). Which ever I am not using goes in the L's crummy but effective soft pouch.

Security ... well you can clasp the lid closed with the two ... erm ... clasps and because the zips for either side pocket are on soft material you have to hold the bag to open easily. Hard to open sneak thief style (I learnt my urban pick pocketing thievery compensation techniques in India, where some folks are masters of the craft, so I have an idea what to watch for in a bag and generally!!) Sure they could try knifing it open but the bag is so soft you would be more likely to feel the movement.

The only thing against it is the lack of internal floor padding, but you can easy get a piece of cheap foam strip and drop it in. I use a thickish double sheet of bubble wrap to take any of the normal day to day pick up and put down impact. Sure if you drop it then things will jar. But if you are half witted in that kinda way then add some foam padding. I very rarely drop things or poke lenses with branches or bang my camera into brick walls (never actually!), tho I know some here do it almost daily it seems :p

So, the proof of the pudding is in the eating ... and while I haven't eaten this bag I have taken it on a number of walkarounds where normally I would leave the camera and stuff at home. My big Crumpler is a truly great 'vanity photographer' bag, but functional for long trips and flights more than day to day walkaround. I have used it three times in as many months. I have used the Gap bag 4 times this week ;-)a

Franny doesn't come with the bag BTW. She just liked hanging around. I think she fancies herself as a model :rolleyes:

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Dude, you do realize that looks like a chick bag right? More specifically, a purse. ;)

On a serious note, I took a generic messenger type bag and added some Domke padded intserts. Worked awesome until my gear outgrew the bag. I still use it to carry my video camera and other accessories though. http://www.photography​-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=146176


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Jul 09, 2006 14:22 as a reply to  @ kevin_c's post |  #6

kevin_c wrote:
Looks a bit like my wife's handbag... except there is still room inside :-) So you've gone up in the world now then - What happened to the supermarket carrier bags you used to use? [Spice (pictured left) says hello to Franny by the way]

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Dude, you do realize that looks like a chick bag right? More specifically, a purse. ;)

Hey ladies ... what you both saying? It was in the mens section and even if it wasn't it does a cool job. And why is wearing ladies pants so wrong :D

Kev, the Sainsbury's bag does a great job too. Very good for candid urban sniping and shopping. This new bag has mor ebenefits tho', for example carrying more stuff without fear of it splitting. Franny also says hi to Spice. Zooey however says Spice can kiss his royal a*s.


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Jul 09, 2006 14:34 as a reply to  @ condyk's post |  #7

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Hey ladies ... what you both saying? It was in the mens section and even if it wasn't it does a cool job. And why is wearing ladies pants so wrong :D

Condy's current underwear...

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Doesn't quite match his man-purse though.

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Jul 09, 2006 14:41 as a reply to  @ Lord_Malone's post |  #8

It will show the dirt.

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Jul 09, 2006 14:44 as a reply to  @ blue_max's post |  #9

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It will show the dirt.

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The undies or the bag?


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Jul 09, 2006 14:50 as a reply to  @ kevin_c's post |  #10

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The undies or the bag?

:lol:

I bought a brand new Domke. It cost three times as much (was third of the original price too). I'll bet it's engineered to take the weight of proper kit and still look good when Dave's has gone out of fashion ;)

I would worry about the strap mountings - they are probably only designed to hold a purse, bingo card and spare rainhat.

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Jul 09, 2006 14:55 as a reply to  @ blue_max's post |  #11

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Says it all ... enjoy your Dumbke :lol: :lol:

Hey, it's a walkaround bag for a few bits. Don't be so threatened. You're sounding like one of those guys who takes everything including the Rocket Blower, laptop and printer (just in case!), makes sure the brand label shows and then never takes anything out the bag LMAO


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Jul 09, 2006 14:56 |  #12

Nice pictures. Your puss is a cam whore. Shouldn't this be in G&N?


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Jul 09, 2006 17:58 as a reply to  @ condyk's post |  #13

condyk wrote:
Says it all ... enjoy your Dumbke :lol: :lol:

Hey, it's a walkaround bag for a few bits. Don't be so threatened. You're sounding like one of those guys who takes everything including the Rocket Blower, laptop and printer (just in case!), makes sure the brand label shows and then never takes anything out the bag LMAO

OK, on a serious note, I do take my 20d/grip, 24-105L, 10-22, 135L and all associated hoods, 580ex, lenspen, spare battery, three polarisers and misc other stuff! I can tell you it puts a strain on that strap. What could I really be expected to leave at home though?

I must say the Domke does inspire confidence, but I guess it does come down to what you consider your walkaround kit.

Whether most people have ever heard of Domke is a bit debatable, but whether you would attract less attention with your light coloured bag compared to my black bag is a moot point.

Most people change camera bags because their needs change, not because they wear out (or at least, I have never worn one out). There is a ready market to sell them too. I suspect that our bags will end up costing very similar amounts of money in the long term.

Just a though. Maybe we should recap in a years time and see how things are going. I may have to eat my words if I bust mine and yours looks like new!

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Jul 10, 2006 11:13 as a reply to  @ blue_max's post |  #14

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I suspect that our bags will end up costing very similar amounts of money in the long term. Just a though. Maybe we should recap in a years time and see how things are going. I may have to eat my words if I bust mine and yours looks like new!

Graham ... you really think I waste time thinking or caring about that stuff :lol: :lol: It's not a competition between bags. I have my big Crumpler for when I need it. It's just a cheap, reasonably cool and unobtrusive alternative for those who may appreciate it as a simple walkaround bag, ie those who don't walkaround with the kitchen sink. This replaced two plastic Sainsbury's bags :lol: :lol: As to looking new well the dirtier it looks the better.


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Jul 10, 2006 11:29 as a reply to  @ condyk's post |  #15

Hey Bluemax,

What model domke did you get? Just got my first f-6 about a month or so ago, and I love it! After wading through all the tamracs, lowepros, and even crumpler. started checking out army surplus to try and "make" one. Just couldn't seem to find what I was looking for. So is this your first domke?


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