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Lens Testing - Sigma 120-300 f2.8 vs Canon 100-400L

 
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Jul 14, 2006 18:32 |  #1

Ok, firstly there's some obvious differences between the lens.. The most obvious is one is black and the other is white. The Sigma is also twice the weight of the Canon. Yet the Canon has IS functionality.

These aren't really accurate results, as a tripod wasn't used, I can't even remember if IS was on or off. But it was some quick clicking back in April when I shot these.

A noticeable thing is, Yes the Sigma is sharper, and it DOES have a warmer tone to the images. (actually now looking at them, I know the colour of the house etc, the Sigma is much more accurate, whereas the 100-400L is too cold looking)

As people have said in the past, you can make just about any lens take good shots at web size, but it's only when you go to 100% crop, you can see the difference.


First test, involved me shooting at approx 300mm at a house across the road...

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120-300 - F5.6 @ 300mm. Unedited.

As the first comparison, let's look at the same unedited shot taken with the 100-400L @ F5.6 (wide open)
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To me it's already noticeable the 120-300 wins.

Now let's take a closer look...
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120-300 @ F5.6

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100-400 @ F5.6

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Now this may be a tad unfair, as the 120-300 is now at 2 stops under, which is generally regarded as the sweet spot (2-3 stops under).. And the 100-400 is struggling as it is fully open.

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The second part of the test got me thinking, 300mm on the Sigma.. 400mm on the Canon.. I have a 1.4 x teleconverter, let's make things a little wilder, pretending in a real situation we do need that 400-420mm reach.

To display what I mentioned earlier, about the Sigma giving a warmer tone, take a look at these two examples:

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These don't need labelling to mention which one is warmer.

Every shot taken side by side, the Sigma clearly is warmer.. The 100-400 is bit cooler.. The real world situation I beleive is somewhere in between the two. So no one wins on perfect accuracy.

To make a little fairer, the two below are F8 crops.. Probably more of an even sweet spot on both the lens. However looking at all the shots, I would say the Sigma is sharpest on F5.6 - F8, and the 100-400 probably on F8-F11

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http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …20-300_f5-6_300mm_web.jpg (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …-300_f5-6_300mm_crop1.jpg (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …-300_f5-6_300mm_crop2.jpg (external link)


http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …00-400_f5-6_300mm_web.jpg (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …-400_f5-6_300mm_crop1.jpg (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …-400_f5-6_300mm_crop2.jpg (external link)

http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …120-300_f11_300mm_web.jpg (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …0-300_f11_300mm_crop1.jp​g (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …0-300_f11_300mm_crop2.jp​g (external link)

http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …100-400_f11_300mm_web.jpg (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …0-400_f11_300mm_crop1.jp​g (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …0-400_f11_300mm_crop2.jp​g (external link)

http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …20-300_420mm_f5-6_web.jpg (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …0-300_420mm_f5-6_crop.jpg (external link)

http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …00-400_400mm_f5-6_web.jpg (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …0-400_400mm_f5-6_crop.jpg (external link)

http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …120-300_420mm_f8_crop.jpg (external link)

http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …100-400_400mm_f8_crop.jpg (external link)

http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …120-300_420mm_f11_web.jpg (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …20-300_420mm_f11_crop.jpg (external link)

http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …100-400_420mm_f11_web.jpg (external link)
http://wazza.nfscity.c​om …00-400_420mm_f11_crop.jpg (external link)

So the final verdict.
Both are great lens..

One is sharper, heavier and black.. But all in all, I'd consider them equal when you factor in the cost as well. The Sigma is probably 30-40% more expensive.

Just one final snippet to show the sharpness of the 120-300

http://wazza.nfscity.c​om/d1-r2/images/img_4038.jpg (external link)
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http://wazza.nfscity.c​om/20d/fanga_crop.jpg (external link) as the cropped version.

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Jul 14, 2006 19:18 |  #2

Dont forget push and pull vs rotate. Canon has an advantage with a 77mm thread where as sigmas 105mm?


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Jul 14, 2006 19:20 |  #3

Yes 105mm, but that's because it's F2.8. Needs to let a whole load more light in.

Canon also has a plastic lens hood, where the Sigma is aluminium


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Jul 14, 2006 19:22 |  #4

I have both lenses, and don't really consider them in competition with each other. The 100-400 is a hand-holding lens, where for me the SIgma is a monopod/tripod lens to be used mostly with a 2X TC.


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Jul 14, 2006 19:39 |  #5

Everytime I've gone to use my 120-300, I've found myself hand holding.


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Jul 14, 2006 19:48 as a reply to  @ Wazza's post |  #6

Wazza wrote:
Everytime I've gone to use my 120-300, I've found myself hand holding.

Same here




  
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Jul 14, 2006 21:38 as a reply to  @ Wazza's post |  #7

Wazza wrote:
Everytime I've gone to use my 120-300, I've found myself hand holding.

Good on ya, mate. Not for me. Too heavy.


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Jul 14, 2006 22:48 |  #8

It's possible to hand hold, but it can be tough to hand hold without your hands staying steady for a long time.

That's why I pick my 70-200 IS over the 300 for hand holding. And use the 120-300 more for my 300 2.8.


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Jul 14, 2006 23:04 |  #9

Before I contemplate putting the 100-400 on trademe, can I ask a really silly question?
Did both lenses have a UV filter on the front?


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Jul 14, 2006 23:45 as a reply to  @ joeseph's post |  #10

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Before I contemplate putting the 100-400 on trademe, can I ask a really silly question?
Did both lenses have a UV filter on the front?

yes




  
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Jul 15, 2006 00:21 |  #11

Yes they did.. well my Sigma definately had the Sigma 105mm filter, and I think your 100-400 did have it on..

What are you going to trade up to Duncan? :lol:


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Jul 15, 2006 01:32 as a reply to  @ joeseph's post |  #12

joeseph wrote:
Before I contemplate putting the 100-400 on trademe, can I ask a really silly question?
Did both lenses have a UV filter on the front?

Why would you do that? What will you replace it with 70-200 F2.8?


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