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Pixel Peeping, blemishes, and dust.

 
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Jul 19, 2006 17:38 |  #1

Perhaps I'm just "old school" but I think cameras and lenses ought to be judged on how they perform and not how they look. There have been a number of threads recently where I have taken the position that some people are just too critical about their gear. They do endless test to ascertain sharpness, they worry that there are small specks of dust inside the lens or that the tiny blemish on the front element will affect the len's resale value. They pixel peep 100% crops and then complain about sharpness and auto focus.

My cameras and lenses are tools. I expect them to get dusty and grimy from time to time, and if that happens I clean them up. I take reasonable precautions to keep my sensor clean and when I notice dust in my photos, I blow it off or clean it with a sensor wipe. I take care of my gear, but I use it in various conditions and sometimes it gets dings and scratches and blemishes. As long as they don't affect the image quality, I don't worry about it.

I get CLA's when I feel the camera needs it, but I've never had to have a lens "calibrated" nor have I ever returned a lens because of a perceived problem. What's wrong with me? Am I not critical enough? How do the rest of you feel? Are you more concerned with the resale value of your gear than the photographs you get, or do you take risks with your gear in hopes of getting a great shot? Do you test each lens with charts and graphs and batteries and send it back two or three times before you're satsifed, or do you use it in the real world and base your decision on those results? What's your criteria for a good lens/camera?

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Jul 20, 2006 11:15 |  #2

Just learning about photography and post processing is enough!!
If I like what I see from the camera and lens that's enough, I don't go looking for problems, if I see something off then of course I run some test.


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Jul 21, 2006 08:40 as a reply to  @ Cassie's post |  #3
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Man, I'm with ya'.

I want to know what a lens will do in a real world scenario. I don't need to see a 100% crop, primarily because when I view the photo, either on the computer or a printed version, I won't be looking at a 100% crop.

I don't take "test shots" of lens boxes or charts to judge the sharpness of a lens, primarily because I don't expect to get to involved with charts and lens boxes as regular subjects.

When I buy a piece of equipment, the last thing I concern myself with is the resale value. If I buy something, and I consider the resale value when I do, I should probably just keep my money. If my lens or camera gets scratched or nicked, well, whatever. I absolutely don't freak out about it.

If the gear does what I need it to do, that's the only thing that matters...


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Jul 21, 2006 08:58 |  #4

mcohran wrote:
Perhaps I'm just "old school" ...

Mark

That must make two of us, then ...
As I was reading your post, I was thinking, "Man, this guy's stolen my freakin' thought processess" :lol:

I don't worry, either, too much about the aesthetics of my gear. As a matter of fact, the majority of my gear is all used stuff, anyway. Two Mark II's - used. 400 2.8 - used. 80-200 2.8 - used. And etc., etc., etc. .....

They do get dirty; they do take a few licks - hey, this is the real world we live in, isn't it ?!

Usually, when I obtain a piece of equipment I just take it for granted that I'll probably own it till I die so I don't have any thoughts regarding re-sale value (even though I have sold a few lenses and a few bodies along the way - and the sales were fairly priced and I got what I thought they were worth). But my priority when I get equipment is to use it - I don't see equipment as an "investment opportunity" .....

Thanks for the post, Mark .... and by the way, what am I thinking now ? .... :lol:


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Jul 21, 2006 17:06 |  #5

Thanks for the responses - at least I know I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

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Jul 23, 2006 10:55 |  #6

Nope, you're not alone. I don't know if it's from shooting film longer than digital or what, but I think the technical obsession has gotten out of hand. A famous photographer once lamented that fact, saying something to the effect of "I'm seeing a lot of technically correct, but very boring photography". I've never shot a test chart, looked at MTF curves, nor had to send anything for calibration either.

I came across this post on dpreview (ironically, the 'measurebating center of the universe'):

http://forums.dpreview​.com …rum=1018&messag​e=19297674 (external link)

I think it sums it up very well :-)


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Jul 25, 2006 11:00 as a reply to  @ lmitch6's post |  #7

lmitch6 wrote:
I came across this post on dpreview (ironically, the 'measurebating center of the universe'):

http://forums.dpreview​.com …rum=1018&messag​e=19297674 (external link)

I think it sums it up very well :-)

Brilliant. I'm new to digital (got my 350D only 3 months ago) and it seems to me that with all the flexibility it gives the photographer, it's very easy to fall victim of "dog's b*****ks syndrome". (You know... why does a dog lick his b*****ks? Because he can.)

I try to force myself to think about the cost/benefit equation when it comes to processing photos, and pizel peeping fails the test by a mile. I'll definitely bother to straighten horizons, I might tweak the white balance or colour saturation if it looks a bit off, I might crop (but I try to get the composition right in the camera!), and I might conceivably even occasionally tweak the curves if I think I can coax a bit of detail out of the shadows in a contrasty picture. But mostly I'd rather spend my time taking more photos, or sitting on the patio with my wife and a cold beer on a warm summer's evening, than pursuing the last imperceptible improvement in each picture.


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