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Rather Than the Holy Trinity -- How About the Fab Four?

 
JimAskew
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Jul 25, 2006 19:12 |  #1

We have all heard about the Holy Trinity primes for your "L" belivers but I have an alternative suggestion.

I propose the "Fab Four" primes for us bargan basement hunters:

a. EF 20MM f/2.8 USM at $420
b. EF 28MM f/1.8 USM at $400
c. EF 50MM f/1.4 USM at $315
d. EF 100MM f/2.0 USM at $390

Together these sum to $1,525 (as recorded at B+H) as opposed to the $4,000+ for the Holy Trinity

Of course one could substitute the 100MM f/2.8 MACRO or the 50MM f/1.8, or the 15MM f/2.8, or.....

The drill is to find four good prime lenses that cash challenged photographers could use now as they save up for the more expensive "Real Deal" :)

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Jul 25, 2006 19:19 |  #2

i would vote for:
35mm f2.0 $210
50 1.4 $300
85 1.8 $325 (best lens for the money out there in my own opinion)
100 2.0 $370

total: $1205


this shoudl give you killer low light setup for very small change




  
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Jul 25, 2006 19:33 |  #3

I agree with

35mm f2.0 $210
50 1.4 $300
85 1.8 $325
100 2.0 $370

On a 1.6 covers a pretty good range with good quality all round. You could even sub the 35/2 with sigmas 30/1.4 for a bit more.




  
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Jul 25, 2006 19:39 as a reply to  @ nadtz's post |  #4

I am new. Which lenses are the Holy Trinity?

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Jul 25, 2006 19:44 as a reply to  @ ChuckJr's post |  #5

35 f1.4, 85 f1.2, 135 f2 are the holy trinity




  
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Jul 25, 2006 19:45 as a reply to  @ MDJAK's post |  #6

My Fab Four:

70-200 f2.8

300 f2.8

400 f2.8

600 f4

Total price: If you have to ask you can't afford them. (And neither can I)

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Jul 25, 2006 19:47 |  #7

JimAskew wrote:
We have all heard about the Holy Trinity primes for your "L" belivers but I have an alternative suggestion.

I propose the "Fab Four" primes for us bargan basement hunters:

a. EF 20MM f/2.8 USM at $420
b. EF 28MM f/1.8 USM at $400
c. EF 50MM f/1.4 USM at $315
d. EF 100MM f/2.0 USM at $390

A good combination on the 1.6X cameras. On full-frame, the 20/2.8 runs into some light falloff issues, but it's still a pretty good lens stopped down a bit. I've heard mixed talk on the 28/1.8 with speculation that the corners go soft at wide apertures on FF.

Haven't handled the 28/1.8, but it's around the ideal focal length for "normal" shots on the 1.6. The 50/1.4 is great, and did great in portrait duty on my 10D. The 100/2 and/or its sibling, the 85/1.8 are both very good. Choose whichever suits your medium telephoto needs.

On a 5D, I'd consider the 35/2, 50/1.4, 85/1.8, and 135/2.8 soft focus (which doesn't seem popular, but does seem to have great sharpness when the SF is set to "0").


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Jul 25, 2006 19:48 as a reply to  @ MDJAK's post |  #8

MDJAK wrote:
My Fab Four:

70-200 f2.8

300 f2.8

400 f2.8

600 f4

Total price: If you have to ask you can't afford them. (And neither can I)

mark

That's a lot of "fab" there! :)


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Jul 25, 2006 19:48 as a reply to  @ MDJAK's post |  #9

MDJAK wrote:
My Fab Four:

70-200 f2.8

300 f2.8

400 f2.8

600 f4

Total price: If you have to ask you can't afford them. (And neither can I)

mark

thats not the fab four, thats the dream team (thats the only way i can have them..) btw, if you are going all gang oh with primes, why not substitude the 70-200 with the 200 1.8 :)




  
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Jul 25, 2006 20:36 as a reply to  @ MDJAK's post |  #10

MDJAK wrote:
35 f1.4, 85 f1.2, 135 f2 are the holy trinity

Thanks!




  
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Jul 25, 2006 22:25 |  #11

JimAskew wrote:
a. EF 20MM f/2.8 USM at $420
b. EF 28MM f/1.8 USM at $400
c. EF 50MM f/1.4 USM at $315
d. EF 100MM f/2.0 USM at $390

That sounds pretty close to what I plan on adding into my lineup (if you call what I have a lineup) later this year, except I may go with the 50 1.8 and the 24mm 2.8 since I'm way down in the cellar below you bargain basement guys.

Although I would like to have the 20mm, it is a little pricey even on the used market for what some say is a so~so lens. The lack of USM wouldn't be too problematic as it would be mostly a landscape lens anyways.

Of course, this would mean that I would be pretty close with the 28mm aswell, but I hear that the 4mm on the wide end makes a sizable difference. I may regret it though so I'll probably shell out for the 20mm.

Though on the tele end, (speaking of the 50mm, 85mm, 100mm lineup) the difference is less of a factor, so I can't see the need of having both the 85 and the 100mm. Either or coupled with the 50mm make a good combo.

Just my $0.02CDN


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Jul 25, 2006 22:57 as a reply to  @ RyanD's post |  #12

I like the dynamic duo. ;)

17-85 IS + 70-200 IS

But I'm hoping to clear some finances to convert to the 24-70, just have to figure out how to convince "the boss".:lol:

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="blond"] 85 1.8 $325 (best lens for the money out there in my own opinion)

Not to disagree, but I think the nifty fifty is the best lens for the money. Its less than a third the cost of the 85/1.8 and sharp as long as its stopped down just a bit. I've heard it referred to as the "crack lens" because its the cheapest way to get hooked on good IQ.




  
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Jul 25, 2006 23:20 |  #13

50 1.8 is sharp, but I think usm focusing and better contrast won me over to the 1.4


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Jul 25, 2006 23:25 |  #14

How about the EF-S Trinity. 10-22, 17-55 and 60mm's


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Jul 25, 2006 23:45 as a reply to  @ calicokat's post |  #15
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One can see those fad lenses on every forum: 35l, 85L, 135l, 200 f/1.8, 300 f/2.8.....
Unfortunately, sometimes people buy them under the influence of their peers without having done much analysis of their own. Then they end up selling that until recently coveted glass....then they try something else.....the quest for that magic wand just keeps going around.

I think there are 3 very cost effective Canon primes for the owners of 1.6 cameras who are into serious practice of photography: 24 f/2.8, 60 f/2.8 and 85 f/1.8.


EF-S: 10-22, 18-55, 17-55, 60.
EF(non L): 15, 24, 35, 50 f/1.4, 85, 100 f/2.8, 24-85, 75-300
A whack of L lenses and a few EOS cameras.

  
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