Hey Guys,
Im gonna start shooting Panorama shots and was wondering if anyone knew of any good tutorials online about how to start shooting them.. like techniques, tips ect.. and how to finally stitch them together??
thanks 
verty Goldmember 1,459 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2005 Location: London, United Kingdom More info | Aug 06, 2006 07:19 | #1 Hey Guys, 5D Mark II || 550 D || 350 D || Canon 17-40L || Canon 24-70L || Canon 50 1.4 || Canon 70-200L IS 2.8 || 580 EX Speedlight || 480 EX speedlight x2 || Manfrotto 190CXPro3 + 488 RC2 || Cybersyncs
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StewartR "your nose is too big" 4,269 posts Joined Jun 2006 Location: Maidenhead, UK More info | Aug 07, 2006 07:32 | #2 It's a lot easier than you think. Just get out there and experiment! www.LensesForHire.co.uk
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verty THREAD STARTER Goldmember 1,459 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2005 Location: London, United Kingdom More info | StewartR wrote: It's a lot easier than you think. Just get out there and experiment! Golden rule: Set the camera in Manual mode so you get the same exposure in all the different shots. And set the White Balance manually rather than leaving it in automatic, so the colours are the same in each photo. Tripod: For landscape-type panoramas, a tripod is desirable but by no means essential. The panorama I've attached was shot hand-held. Of course if you want to do advanced things like 360-degree panoramas then a good tripod with a panoramic head is essential. Software: Canon PhotoStitch (free with my 350D) is incredibly simple to use and often gives decent results. AutoStitch (free download from the AutoStitch website Warning: this can get addictive. wow thats amazing! 5D Mark II || 550 D || 350 D || Canon 17-40L || Canon 24-70L || Canon 50 1.4 || Canon 70-200L IS 2.8 || 580 EX Speedlight || 480 EX speedlight x2 || Manfrotto 190CXPro3 + 488 RC2 || Cybersyncs
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lostdoggy King Duffus 4,787 posts Joined Aug 2004 Location: Queens, NY More info | Aug 08, 2006 19:54 | #4 For best result the camera should remain in one spot, but can go any where you want just as long as the camera remains in one spot. You need to move the camera on the tripod by panning and maintain 1/3 or more of the neighboring photo so that the stitching SW will have a reference to where to stitch it together. You can even tilt it up if you want just make sure the camera and tripod remains in one spot.
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verty THREAD STARTER Goldmember 1,459 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2005 Location: London, United Kingdom More info | Aug 09, 2006 01:36 | #5 so its pretty much just leaving the camera on a tripod and changing the angles of rotation on the ball head? like 10degrees to 30 degrees to ect to get the whole shot you need in?? 5D Mark II || 550 D || 350 D || Canon 17-40L || Canon 24-70L || Canon 50 1.4 || Canon 70-200L IS 2.8 || 580 EX Speedlight || 480 EX speedlight x2 || Manfrotto 190CXPro3 + 488 RC2 || Cybersyncs
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StewartR "your nose is too big" 4,269 posts Joined Jun 2006 Location: Maidenhead, UK More info | Like lostdoggy says, the camera should stay in the same place and just swivel. The issue is that you need to avoid parallax error. This is what happens when you get two views of a scene from slightly different places; objects in the foreground and background don't line up the same way in each view. (Practical demonstration: Hold one finger up in front of you, close one eye and note how the finger lines up against the background. Then do it with the other eye. That's the effect of parallax.) www.LensesForHire.co.uk
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verty THREAD STARTER Goldmember 1,459 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2005 Location: London, United Kingdom More info | StewartR wrote: Like lostdoggy says, the camera should stay in the same place and just swivel. The issue is that you need to avoid parallax error. This is what happens when you get two views of a scene from slightly different places; objects in the foreground and background don't line up the same way in each view. (Practical demonstration: Hold one finger up in front of you, close one eye and note how the finger lines up against the background. Then do it with the other eye. That's the effect of parallax.) Technically speaking, in order to completely avoid parallax error the camera should swivel around something called the 'front nodal point' of the lens, rather than the focal plane (which is how most tripod mountings work). You can get special panoramic tripod heads that do this. But they are only really necessary if you are trying to shoot panoramas where objects are close to the camera, because that's when parallax errors occur. For example I once saw an amazing 360-degree panorama of the interior of a car. You couldn't do that without a panoramic head. But for landscape-type panoramas, where everything is a long way away from the lens, you can do it with an ordinary tripod or even hand-held (as in my example). The key thing is to swivel the camera/lens rather than move it. Whether you swivel it 10 degress or 30 degrees for each shot depends on the lens you're using, because different focal lengths give different fields of view. The key thing, as lostdoggy says, is to make sure there's enough overlap for the software to recognise which bits of neighbouring photos are the same. That might depend, to a certain extent, on the nature of the subject: if it is low-contrast or has a repetitive pattern, then the software might get confused. I try to ensure that there are some easily recognisable objects or points in each overlap zone, and I adjust the overlaps as I take the shots to make sure that's the case. Most software programs allow you to designate which points in each photo correspond to one another. The demo (free!) version of AutoStitch doesn't - as the name suggests it's fully automatic - but in practice it seems to do an excellent job of working out how to overlap the photos. Here's a practical example. At the weekend I shot a 360-degree panorama of my garden, which AutoStitch had no trouble at all with. I used my 350D with an 18mm lens, which has a field of view (in portrait mode) of about 45 degrees. So theoretically 8 shots would give me the full 360-degree coverage with no overlaps. I actually took 13 shots, so on average only 360/13=28 degrees of coverage was unique to each shot. That's about 60% of the 45 degree field of view. Effectively then, on average each photo had 20% that overlapped with the photo on its left, 60% that was unique, and 20% that overlapped with the photo on its right. In practice it's not quite that straightforward because of the distortion you get with a wideangle lens, but you get the idea. lostdoggy's suggestion of a 1/3 overlap is a good one as a general rule. Now get out there and shoot! (Remember: manual exposure, manual white balance.) And let us know how you get on! thankyou so much! 5D Mark II || 550 D || 350 D || Canon 17-40L || Canon 24-70L || Canon 50 1.4 || Canon 70-200L IS 2.8 || 580 EX Speedlight || 480 EX speedlight x2 || Manfrotto 190CXPro3 + 488 RC2 || Cybersyncs
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lostdoggy King Duffus 4,787 posts Joined Aug 2004 Location: Queens, NY More info | Aug 09, 2006 19:24 | #8 There is nothing wrong with that. Its better then trying it blind. Good luck and have fun.
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afireinside0016 Hatchling 9 posts Joined Jul 2006 Location: central PA More info | this doesn't sound hard at all, and it actually sounds like it would be a lot of fun. i just wish i had more areas around my town where i could get up high and take some cool pans of the entire city and stuff. http://picasaweb.google.com/afireinside0016
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verty THREAD STARTER Goldmember 1,459 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2005 Location: London, United Kingdom More info | Aug 20, 2006 04:08 | #10 ok here is my 1st attempt of photostitch.. 5D Mark II || 550 D || 350 D || Canon 17-40L || Canon 24-70L || Canon 50 1.4 || Canon 70-200L IS 2.8 || 580 EX Speedlight || 480 EX speedlight x2 || Manfrotto 190CXPro3 + 488 RC2 || Cybersyncs
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StewartR "your nose is too big" 4,269 posts Joined Jun 2006 Location: Maidenhead, UK More info | That doesn't look at all bad for a first attempt! Though it is hard to see the details because it's so small - can you post a larger example on your gallery, perhaps?
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verty THREAD STARTER Goldmember 1,459 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2005 Location: London, United Kingdom More info | StewartR wrote: That doesn't look at all bad for a first attempt! Though it is hard to see the details because it's so small - can you post a larger example on your gallery, perhaps? A couple of things to be wary of:
i cant post anything bigger than 800 pixels wide so im gonna have to show you the link at my deviantart page.. here is the direct link http://www.deviantart.com …+sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps 5D Mark II || 550 D || 350 D || Canon 17-40L || Canon 24-70L || Canon 50 1.4 || Canon 70-200L IS 2.8 || 580 EX Speedlight || 480 EX speedlight x2 || Manfrotto 190CXPro3 + 488 RC2 || Cybersyncs
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StewartR "your nose is too big" 4,269 posts Joined Jun 2006 Location: Maidenhead, UK More info | It's good. I like it. It's obviously a lovely spot and the panorama does it justice. www.LensesForHire.co.uk
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verty THREAD STARTER Goldmember 1,459 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2005 Location: London, United Kingdom More info | Aug 20, 2006 18:51 | #14 i did shoot in manual but the problem being that when i got to different sections of the stitch the light meter reading was going crazy saying the picture would be too over exposed?? do you get what i mean?? for the 1st frame the light meter was spot on (the 1st section to the left) and as i moved to the right where the water is more sunlight was shining thru and yeah i wasnt sure if i should adjust the meter accordingly?? 5D Mark II || 550 D || 350 D || Canon 17-40L || Canon 24-70L || Canon 50 1.4 || Canon 70-200L IS 2.8 || 580 EX Speedlight || 480 EX speedlight x2 || Manfrotto 190CXPro3 + 488 RC2 || Cybersyncs
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StewartR "your nose is too big" 4,269 posts Joined Jun 2006 Location: Maidenhead, UK More info | verty wrote: i did shoot in manual but the problem being that when i got to different sections of the stitch the light meter reading was going crazy saying the picture would be too over exposed?? do you get what i mean?? for the 1st frame the light meter was spot on (the 1st section to the left) and as i moved to the right where the water is more sunlight was shining thru and yeah i wasnt sure if i should adjust the meter accordingly?? Ah. What you need to do before you shoot the panorama is take meter readings off different parts of the scene, then decide on just one exposure setting and use that (in Manual mode) for all the photos. No adjustments. That way bright parts of the scene will come out bright, dark parts will come out dark, and so on. The best exposure is probably one that puts the brightest part of the scene right on the verge of blowing out, i.e. on the right-hand end of the histogram. That can mean some parts are very dark, but you can recover that in post-processing whereas you can't recover blown highlights. I tend to take a few test shots and check the histograms before I take the full panorama. www.LensesForHire.co.uk
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