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Flash - am I understanding this?

 
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Aug 18, 2006 15:40 |  #1

Hello guys.

I am very new to photography and am trying to grasp everything involved with it. I recently got a 430ex for my Rebel, and want to see if I understand this:

The flash will always light up the subject (within reason) no matter what your shutter speed (I'm talking manual here), but, if you increase the shutter speed, (i.e. from 1/3200 to 1/4000), the background will be darker, but the subject will appear the same (if the flash goes off), and if you decrease the shutter (from 1/4000 to 1/3200 for example), the background will be brighter.

Does this make sense - within reason of course?


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Aug 18, 2006 15:47 |  #2

yes it does. bear in mind your camera has a max sync speed of 1/200s. so if you want to have a shutter speed faster than this turn on high speed sync on the flash.


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Aug 18, 2006 18:10 |  #3

Yeah, high speed sync flash is something i DO use, are there any negative side effects of it? If the flash is capable of doing it - why do they even have a max sync speed?


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Aug 18, 2006 18:55 |  #4

From Flash Photography 101:

Flash fact #6*: Every SLR camera with a mechanical shutter has a maximum flash sync shutter speed (1/200 or 1/250 on current Canon DSLRs). This has to do with the way focal plane shutters work. At slower shutter speeds, the first curtain opens, the flash fires, and after the specified time duration, the second curtain closes behind it. At shutter speeds faster than flash sync, the second curtain begins to close before the first curtain is completely open. The second curtain follows the first across the frame, exposing only a slice of the image at any given moment. Firing a flash during this process would illuminate only part of the image.

High speed sync (aka FP flash) produces many low-powered flashes at a very high frequency throughout the duration of the exposure. It is essentially a continuous light source that lasts a very short time, whereas "normal" flash begins after the first shutter curtain opens and ends before the second curtain begins to close.

The disadvantage to FP flash is that it is less efficient and will reduce the effective range of the flash unit. For example, normal flash at 1/200 shutter speed and f/8 will have about 1 stop (1.4 times) more effective range than FP flash at 1/400 shutter speed and f/5.6.


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Aug 18, 2006 19:34 |  #5

theres no need to use FP unless you want no ambient light at all.


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Aug 18, 2006 19:50 |  #6

lakiluno, coudl you explain?

if i am outside doing ... individual photos with bright sun and harsh shadows - i am goign to want to use fill flash, but 1/200th is WAY to slow for outdoor use, unless i use a narrow apperture, which i wouldn't want to do to keep the shallow DOF for the portrait


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Aug 19, 2006 02:58 |  #7

is 1/200th too slow for outdoor? I wouldnt have thought so.

I might just confuse everyone here, but with a portrait, the subject is fairly close, meaning the light drop off from the flash is minimal.. the only thing you'd really need to worry about is the background blurring from it being REALLY slow.. like under 1/6oth.. yes?




  
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Aug 19, 2006 05:39 as a reply to  @ lakiluno's post |  #8

lakiluno wrote:
theres no need to use FP unless you want no ambient light at all.

Not true.

The most common purpose for FP flash is for fill flash in outdoor portraits, where you want to keep a wide aperture to blur the background. FP flash allows for fast enough shutter speeds to avoid ambient light overexposure with wide aperture settings in bright conditions.

These shots by Schmoelzel are excellent examples.


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Aug 19, 2006 06:46 |  #9

heh...maybe I should re-read the flash bible and spend longer reading about flash before I try to give advice again...

and those shots of julia are fantastic!


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