So, 350D to 400D, Who all is doing it?

Livinthalife wrote:
So now the 400D (Xti) Is officially announced. Who all sees this as a opportunity to upgrade? It sounds like the 20D to 30D arguement. A lot of people are saying it's not enough of a difference, but I know with the 20D to 30D arguement, a lot of people found themselves upgrading despite the "small" differences.

So anyways, what's your plan?

I think I will stick with my XT untill I got the cash for a 30D or 40D

Same, the 400D would have been nice but it's also an unknown because we've never seen tests. Besides I got my cam a month ago and sure I was pissed about no dust removal, small LCD, and 2 extra mp's for just $100 or so more than the xt but i'll wait till i can get a 30D.

Here are some noise samples, and the 30D does seem to outdo the 400D. The difference? 2 extra megapixels stuffed into basically the same sensor. I would bet that if the 350D was put into there, it would match the 30D.
http://www.popco.net …Url=Canon_EOS-400D_02.htm

If you are a high ISO guy, i'd consider that. If you aren't, then it won't matter. A tigher crop won't be that much more siginificant. I've taken 10megapixels photos and blew them up to 11x14 images. That was 6 megapixels.

If you really want a camera that can go big and crop heavily, the 5D has bigger pixels in its bigger sensor. Even now, when I crop with my 8.2 megapixels when i do sports, I still get a very huge output. BUt then of course, glass is more important and you want to have something that reaches a decent amount anyway.

Go whatever way fits you best, but really, this megapixels game is more marketing, to catch the consummers who look at Nikon D80, Sony Alpha and the Canon Rebel series.

hodad66 wrote:
2mp's is what my old Oly 2100 had, I can crop better now with my XT
than I could with the 10D. Going up to 10.1 will allow an even tighter
crop.

The early word from luminous-landscape.com is that they don't see
noise problems. If I switch from 1.6 crop factor to full frame my
350mm lens becomes simply a 350 again. Then I have to crop even
more. AND all of that at the cost of thousands.

For $350 - $400 I can get what I want. Remember I had a metal
body & gave it up for the XT. I have no problem with the functionality
of the XT. If you make money with your camera, great. This is my
hobby & for me the XTi is great news.

IMO, you guys are too quickly discounting the new AF system... had a CP on yesterday at sunset, and the XT was being a real PITA with the AF. I had to take off the CP to get even reasonable results.

I thought the extra sensitive focus points on the 30D & the new 400D were supposed to provide far superior focussing on lenses below F5.6 (F2.8 for example) over the 350D which doesnt have these extra focus points?

Well the other night it was sun down & I was in my bedroom, really low light!! I put a target at the other end of the wall quite a distance away & set the camera to F2.8, focussed & then did another shot at over F5.6, from everything I have read I was expecting the 350D to be really lousy at focussing at F2.8 in really low light & to be much better at F5.6 onwards, well I was suprised by the results, F2.8 was identical to any other aperture setting, no problems focussing at all.

I then did another test the following night, it was getting dark in the garden & so I tried focussing this time on distant & closer objects & even AI Servo mode with passing cars at ISO 1600 to get a decent shutter speed, everything was fine at F2.8, so I dont see the point of these "extra sensitive" focus points when it works perfectly without them.

If the conditions were any darker I wouldnt want to be taking the photo anyway, I would then have to go over to night scene setup, tripod etc...

Nick

Dont be too quick to down the 350D's focussing, it could be the kit lens if you were using that at the time? I hated that lens & quickly got the Sigma, ive never had any problems with focussing on the 350D even at F2.8 which is supposed to need the extra sensitive focus points.

Remember autofocus requires high contrast to focus, the sunset may have been like pointing at the sky, if you point at something uniform in colour & contrast then autofocus regardless of body will hunt.

Shouldn't it at least end up at infinity? It was really starting to annoy me.

agreed. the kit lens focusing was lousy. my 17-55 f/2.8 IS focuses very fast and quite accurately. in darker environments, it will hunt a little if it is set on all focus points. but if you specify a focus point then it will get it like 98% of the time.

i havent bought my XT yet, but right now im really close to getting it. 700 with kit lens.

should i spend an extra 100 or so to get the xti?

you should spend the extra and get the xti.

or spend the extra $200 and get the XTi with kit lens. ... okay, well XTi is certainly a good buy if your starting out, so hell, go for it!
OR
You may want to wait to catch someone selling their XT for a good value here, or Fredmiranda.

Buy now if you need a camera to take pictures you are missing. Whatever fits your need best.

could not agree more with that... buy now bec you are missing shooting time!

although i might miss shooting time bec i may have to ship the rebel xt that i just sold. and i'm not sure when the xti will be on the shelves

on amazon it said october 20th.

but is it 200 worth all the features the xti has? should i just invest the 200 in a lens?

I thought the camera focused using the lens' max aperture regardless of aperture setting? So it should be expected that the focusing was the same when setting the aperture to 2.8 and 5.6 on the 350D since it doesn't have the better AF system.

Forgot that, then what on earth are the extra sensitive focus points for? my lens is F2.8 wide open, apparently a problem for the 350D but not the 30D or 400D, but I see no problems at all, even had a 30D here for a while & found no differences, hmm maybe marketing hype..

Nick