So, 350D to 400D, Who all is doing it?

I have f2.8 lenses and I have no problem with focus at f2.8 that I don't get at other apertures. In other words aside from frequent disagreements between my XT and Tamron 70-300, I get no problems.

Nick_C wrote:
Forgot that, then what on earth are the extra sensitive focus points for? my lens is F2.8 wide open, apparently a problem for the 350D but not the 30D or 400D, but I see no problems at all, even had a 30D here for a while & found no differences, hmm maybe marketing hype..

Nick

The extra sensitive focus point(s) give(s) faster and more accurate auto-focus on lenses with an aperture f/2.8 or wider

I'd upgrade now. My reasoning is as follows...

I was planning an upgrade to the 30D and since my 350D is relatively new I could probably sell it and not lose out too much. Now that the 400D is on the table, I'm expecting the second-hand price of a 350D to drop and drop even more when the next mid-range is released. May as well get more MP now for a small amount extra (after selling my 350D) than wait a year or 2 and have to pay full price for the next release.

Why did they release the 30D with only 8.2MP and a budget camera with 10MP 2 or 3 months later? I don't get the logic.

Wow, 85% say they'll upgrade when needed rather than do it now Wonder what the actual results will be 6 months down the track?

I remember the 20D to 30D polls and consensus was very few would upgrade. And rightly so the 30D offered little innovation over the 20D. Yet the amount of people actually making the hop over to the 30D shortly after release was a lot larger than the initial poll suggest.

well, the upgrade to the 400D poll is growing slowly. once, the current 350D owners actually hold the 400D in their hand and realize that they could see their pictures better in a 2.5 inch lcf, i think a lot will be upgrading.

Although a grate camera, the 350 still has it's limitations, I would go with some thing like 30D or still wait and see what is coming, 350D is like when you want to learn how ride a bike and you first purchase a basic bike in order to save you from crashing your bigger and more sportier one, so 350 is the basic bike just to learn with,

Don't fall for the megapixels race. It's just sheer marketing(to have an entry level camera that can compete with the Alpha and Nikon D80). There is no difference between the 8 and 10, especially when they are both 1.6 crops on basically the same size sensor.

Buy because other things fit you, but not because of the megapixels. It's been shown already in some tests that the 400D falls behind in lower light at ISO 800(slightly) and 1600.

Not going to say what's better, but the 30D is more about the other stuff, like spot metering, 1/3 ISO(so instead of jumping from 400, 800, 1600, you get 400, 500, 640, 800, 1000, 1250, 1600), FPS, read control dial). Those things are where the focus is. More on usability. They stuck with something that had done very well and added the things people wanted.

Ummm... they both have the same sensor size so that means there is going to be more pixels/mm2 on the 400D. I don't understand your angle on that comment. I agree that the whole launch of the 400D is just competition for the entry market.

I agree here. I wouldn't buy it just for the MP. There are a few new interesting features though... plus it's going to hold value for longer than my 350D. I rarely shoot with fast ISO (I can't stand the graininess) so that won't bother me.

I really do want to move to the 30D, but the cost to upgrade is going to be too much for me at the moment. Canon really stuffed up my plans introducing the 400D! LOL

If the 350D/XT works, why upgrade. Very few Nikon D70 owners have jumped on the upgrade bandwaggon. Very few 20D owners have upgraded to the 30D.

I almost bought the 300D and almost bought the 20D but compromised on the XT/350D. I don;t see much point to upgrading until I've run out of options with the XT or until it breaks. It does everything I need or want. If I get enough income from the XT to upgrade then I might but until then, zero point.

My point was that you are stuffing 2mp into basically the same sensor size. It seems that the threshold is about 8mp. That's probably why 30D didn't move up because they are working on their new sensor improvements(which will probably be in Digic III).

I can find the link, but(high ISO isn't that useful to you as you say) you see the problems with smaller megapixels and noise in the Nikon, Sony Alpha, and better(but not as good as the 30D/350D's) noise tolerance.

Agreed. Any newer body will hold its value longer. The 400D will of course hold its value for a while at a higher value since its the next best thing. As long as you can eliminate the advantage of high iso, you just saved yourself money.

Why does it screw up your plans? If you think the 400D will meet your needs, then buy it. If the 30D does, then buy that. I don't think your plans changed. You just have to find which tool fits your craft best. Or maybe its the 350D still, but glass is what you need more. Only you know that answer.

OK... well me being broke doesn't help either...

fair points on the other stuff. I am thinking a major limitation to improving resolution is the time it takes to record information from the CMOS to a buffer or to CF. Do you know if the 400D is any slower at doing this than the 350D with the extra 2MP?

photobitz wrote:
OK... well me being broke doesn't help either...

fair points on the other stuff. I am thinking a major limitation to improving resolution is the time it takes to record information from the CMOS to a buffer or to CF. Do you know if the 400D is any slower at doing this than the 350D with the extra 2MP?

No, on the buffer end, you'll see improvement with the 400D or 30D, or even the 20D over the 350D.

Of course were going to change our minds and buy the 400 later. We're Canon freaks or we wouldn't be here.

For me its about the 10MP, when you do alot of cropping the 25% more pixels make a real difference.

My 350 has been a good tool. I also had planed to upgrad to 30D but with this new XTi, I'm thinking that the 30D will be soon upgraded to 10-plus mp soon. So, I think I am going to go with the new 400D and enjoy the extra mp, sensor cleaning and larger screen. Then when the new 30D comes out I'll have to get that one too. Why? because I have the (I gotta have it) addiction.... Cannon & POTN rules my wallet! I would never ever join "POTN Anonymous" Hmm....Will the 350 battery grip fit the 400?

Just went from 300D to 30D, i'm not going anywhere anytime soon.