Candid by Hard Rock Pool (NWS)

Good for you Mark. Keep shooting and what not.

You stopped, he said stop, so you basically complied with him. He didn't come to you and ask anything further. So I see nothing wrong with that part. You aren't making a profit with the photos and what not. And she doesn't look like she's doing anything embarassing, so you aren't doing anything to make her character seem bad.

Super shots,love the expresions lol.

thank you, grego and malla. appreciate it.

mark

Great shots of a pretty hottie. I wish I had your nerve to take public shots of strangers!

DocFrankenstein wrote:
Indeed you do.

Why did you take the pictures at all?

And this, coming from a man who suffers BLUE BALLS when doing a glamour shoot.

mark

Interesting candid. Well done. Not my particular cup of tea but not a bad image at all.

This is the 3rd or 4th thread I've read tonight about photographers invading a percieved sense of privacy in a public place, all with veiled threats of violence if it happens to them or their family. If we could direct some of that anger and energy at something worth expending it on (like real crime or terrorism) we could get some place. I think I'll protest that traffic cam that grabbed a lousy picture of me in the privacy of my own automobile and had the nerve to charge me for it.

Keep shooting and posting MDJAK! When I see a picture of me or my family in one of your posts we can discuss what you charge for them...

My thoughts EXACTLY. Took the words right out of my mouth.

Bruce
Edit: Oh, and these are work safe at my work.

Titus, Steareo, and everyone else who has come to my "defense," if that's what you want to call it, thank you. It is appreciated.

mark

I've not reed all the posts so ignore this if its been said but isn't that a hospital band on her left arm ?

Np. The fact is, this isn't an upskirt photo, quite the contrary. I think it shows her in a good light. It was not distasteful, and I personally think it was almost showing the art of the human bosy with curves.

Is she good looking? Sure. Does that make this candid porn? Gosh I hope not. Just because I capture a female athlete jumping, and she has a great body, or great legs, etc, it doesn't mean I'm aiming for upskirt.

There is nothing wrong with taking a picture of a beautiful woman. Not one person would have had a moral objection if this image were of a homeless person, showcasing is struggle on the streets, in a contrasty black and white.

Yet, because the subject provides a clean, pleasing image to the viewer, we get all of this flack, essentially equating it to near-upskirt photography. Honestly, its not like Mark caught a nip slip, or was telephotoing over a fence into a nude sunbather's backyard.

The girl was in a public place, standing elegantly enough, and she happened to have pleasing curves and skintone, etc.

When the hubby, friend, male escort saw that images were being captured, he motioned for cessation of the photographing, which Mark not only complied to, but also had already stopped.

Furthermore, had the male or the subject approached Mark and politely explained that they wanted the images deleted and why, he would have complied the same. But they didn't.

Then, he makes a post online to share his capture, no different than an urban photojournalist capturing homelessness. He isn't asking for money, he hasn't put them on a porn site or a 'upskirt' site. He posted them here.

When he posted the images, he didn't title the thread 'HOT BODY' or 'Nice piece of bum (ed.)'. He called it 'Candid by Hard Rock Pool'.

To me, this was nothing but flattering to the subject, and NOT ONLY did he not break any laws that *I* know of, but he respected the subject in the way he displayed the images.

Maybe I'm out in left field, but if we're calling THIS offensive, we really need to re think the P.C. status of our country. There simply must be a lot of sheltered people out there. It would be hard for me to think of a more respectful way to go about this, but very easy for me to think of the ways Mark COULD have done this worse. This simply was a respectful candid shot.

Bruce

...I was thinking about that. A lot of the New Yorkers here post a hell of a lot of candids around the city. I like visiting NYC. I'm waiting to sign on one day and there's a picture of me.

I actually had to look back to see what you were referring to.

No, it is not a hospital bracelet. And it took me a moment to remember what it is.

As I stated, the pool at the Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas is open to the general public. They have "Swim-Up Blackjack" along with a bar in the middle of the pool and obviously are trying to attract as large a crowd as they can.

As to the green bracelet, on weekends they charge the "public" to come into the pool area. The green bracelets are given out free to guests at the hotel. I don't recall whether the bracelets for nonguests who pay for them are the same color or not.

mark

And would you object, or be flattered, Danielle? And when you do come to the city, look me and some other members up. We'll take you on a great tour.


mark

MDJAK wrote:
And would you object, or be flattered, Danielle? And when you do come to the city, look me and some other members up. We'll take you on a great tour.


mark

I'd be very flattered. I love having my picture taken!

I haven't been there in a year or two, and I only live two hours away. I deffineatly will next time I visit.

Bruce (Staereo), once again, thank you. Your response was so thought out and well written, I truly stand in awe of your ability to put forth in words your thoughts. You've so eloquently written many of the things that have been in my head regarding this thread.

It is quite surprising to me that so many people have felt a need to attack this, to the point that I was contemplating contacting a moderator and asking them to delete the entire thread. I decided against that as I did not want to bow to censorship.

mark