Another ebay scam ?!?

But those e-mails don't go anywhere near ebay, so there is nothing ebay can do about them. They are regular e-mails from normal providers, which are made to look like they come from ebay. The login on the e-mail also doesn't take you anywhere near an ebay server, but straight to the scammers website. Ebay cannot put any sort of security block on this scam.

They DO tell all ebayers that these e-mails are going to be fakes because ebay NEVER asks for that sort of information. If you get an e-mail you are unsure of and think that you might have to respond, close the e-mail, log into your ebay account the usual way and, if the mail WAS genuine, it will show up in 'my messages'. If it isn't there (and it probably won't be) then the mail was a scam.

These aren't just an ebay scam though, I get several a month purporting to be from ebay, paypal, various banks etc. I know they are all scams and simply ignore them. On the odd occasion that one seems more plausible than usual, I log in as normal and check it out - never logging in through the e-mail.

There is another lot by this guy ledberg.

Thanks Steve - I accept the point you are making. Sorry if I'm living up to my username too much!

In my case, I foolishly accepted the trader as being honest. I had even acquired their contact information from eBay (address and tel no.). However - and here's the scary (actually - it's obscene) part. The information they'd provided to eBay was false. The simplest of checks (by eBay) would have shown that the address they supplied upon registration was that of a Best Western Hotel, and that no-one of that trader's name was known at that address. (I was able to do this myself - sadly only after the event.) If there was more bandwidth, I'd give you the full story. It's actually rather fascinating. I may be gullible, but the scammers are rather thick!

Well Grumpy I hope it all comes to a good outcome for you - as I said reading your post sent shivers up my spine. With any luck your credit card company should re-imburse, but I'd be interested to know how it turns out, also what if any , help the police have been.

Grumpyhagis, I'm also very sorry - I was not even thinking about you're experience when I wrote that... I was relating something my friend said that really surprised me. No, I see nothing wrong with getting a good deal. It is when the deal is so good it is obviously stolen or being sold by someone that doesn't have the slightest clue (had the item been real and not a scam) that the guilt might kick in, and only if the person were thinking "HA! I'm gonna get that sucker!" rather than "Wow, a great deal!" I'm sorry I was not considerate when adding my comment, and I definitely see all the judgement falling on the scammer, not the buyer. I was not agreeing with the hypothesised mindsets at all, neither that of the scammer nor that of the person being burned!

That was rude and insensitive of me, and not at all what I was trying to accomplish. I appreciate your sharing your story and helping keep others from falling victim. I was about to order what I thought was a good deal on an SD card when I read a warning about counterfeits being super common, and like you I was not thinking anything about taking advantage of another... I figured that was just the going "good deal" rate! Boy was I wrong, and only saved by someone who, like you, took the time to pass on what they learned the hard way.

Thank you

If you look at some banks like HSBC or Savings account providers like ING Direct, have multi-level logins. If you have that with eBay, there are less chances to get fooled.

Obviously eBay can't stop the e-mails from being sent out, but they can enhance their site login to distinguish from the scam.

For instance, ING makes you pick a picture and phrase. So if you see the phrase and picture, then its indeed an authetic login page. If you don't see it then, it isn't.

So for instance if you had a picture of a clown and a phrase like purple monkey dishwasher, then you'd know its a scam if it doesn't show up.

Right, I see your point. I haven't come across any such systems before (I don't have any online banking, I feel safer that way!). I can see that would help to a degree. I can't help feeling though, that anybody who doesn't know better than to attempt to login via an e-mail, rather than going in through the proper website, is also not going to see alarm bells if they get a different login. I mean all sites warn NEVER to login through an e-mail, if someone is stupid enough to ignore that, then will they also ignore the fact that the security login isn't on if the scammers have put something on the site to explain it?

In the end it's mostly down to common sense, paying attention and taking the advice about e-mails seriously.

Of course, you are right, such a security login WILL help and make some people think again if it isn't present. However, I never cease to be amazed at just HOW stupid and gullible some people can be.

A bit off topic I know, but consider the people who get a letter saying that they have won the Canadian Lottery and all they need to do is send a cheque for £xxx to cover processing and they will receive $2 million. Now you or I would be slightly suspicious as we have NEVER ENTERED the Canadian lottery but, no, some people send off the money. They then get a letter back acknowledging receipt but, as they are overseas, a further payment of £x,xxx is required for (pick dubious excuse). They STILL don't twig and send off another payment, then get a letter stating that Canadian law requires them to pay tax on this amount of £xx,xxx before the payment can be made. Believe it or not, some people make several payments to scammers like this, EACH TIME believing that they will now receive their millions. I have heard of people handing over upwards of £75,000, over a few payments, and taking out a second mortgage to meet the demands. Most of these people are normal, supposedly intelligent, adults.

Yes, more secure logins will add another layer of doubt, when people click on these e-mails. Some will spot that but sadly many of the people, who fall for these e-mails, will NOT spot it and carry on with handing over all their details. I do agree with you though, more secure logins would be handy.

Found 2 more.

http://cgi.ebay.com …41397QQrdZ1QQcm​dZViewItem

and

http://cgi.ebay.com …41397QQrdZ1QQcm​dZViewItem

Boath have a Canon 1Ds MkII for £700 and ask for direct contact. Same as before.

Already reported them to ebay.


P.S.: i'm geting good at this "finding ebay scam's" thingie.... hehehe

Do you think this one is a scam? It has a floating email to send for "deal terms" before bidding. My guess is they want a wire transfer and will use the excuse it's an expensive item as the reason. Thought I would throw it out there.

http://cgi.ebay.com …31388QQrdZ1QQcm​dZViewItem

taslin wrote:
Do you think this one is a scam? It has a floating email to send for "deal terms" before bidding. My guess is they want a wire transfer and will use the excuse it's an expensive item as the reason. Thought I would throw it out there.

http://cgi.ebay.com …31388QQrdZ1QQcm​dZViewItem

As something of a connoisseur of scams now, I'd say that this is a dead-cert scam, and I've already reported it to eBay.

oops! Sorry - didn't mean to shout there. Something happened with my font when I wasn't looking.:o Oooooh - it's happened again - I'll have to go and change

From this thread my guess is that any high priced camera 5d and higher is probably a scam on ebay. I can't imagine buying something for $3K plus through ebay.

I was trying to think of my ebay experiences and I think my most expensive ebay purchase to date is about $50-$75 including shipping.

I wouldn't say all of them are scams, but finding a camera that here in Portugal is sold for 7000€ (about $9000 US) with a asking price of £700 (about $1350 US) is 2 good to be true. Then there's the 2nd "give away", the "don't contact me via ebay, contact me to my personal e-mail adress" thing.

Ebay is geting worst by the day... more and more scams show up on a daily base...

P.S.: didn't manage to see you're find on ebay... it has already been removed by them.

grumpyhaggis wrote:
As something of a connoisseur of scams now, I'd say that this is a dead-cert scam, and I've already reported it to eBay.

oops! Sorry - didn't mean to shout there. Something happened with my font when I wasn't looking.:o Oooooh - it's happened again - I'll have to go and change

And removed from ebay in less than 30 min.

Yes I think that ebay is an easy place for a thief to make money and get away with it. They probably hijack an ebay account and hijack a bank account so none of their "real" info is involved in the scam and are probably very hard to trace unless you can get them on a camera withdrawing the money. It's just disappointing that people don't do business honestly like most of us and as they say it's the rotten apple that spoils the bunch.