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Canuck
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Dec 01, 2003 19:22 |  #1

Hi all,
I was wondering which software you run, cost and thoughts on it. I realise I may have a ton of answers, but I am looking to get soemthing a ton better than the cheezy Canon software. I know there is C1, PS, and a lot of others that support the 10D RAW format.

Thanks in advance for all inputs!




  
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Dec 01, 2003 19:43 |  #2

Since you have the 10D, you can upgrade Elements to CS for $300. Might as well enter the mainstream at the start, rather then spending money here and there on unintegrated solutions and afterwards getting to PS in any case. Just my opinion.


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Dec 01, 2003 20:38 |  #3

I know there are people (like Bob Gross) who have other personal preferences for other less widely-used image editing software like Paint Shop Pro, etc.. Typically their strongest argument for not switching to PS is that they've been using the other one for years, and don't feel like taking on the steep learning curve involved in changing at this late date. Understandable, I suppose.

That is just about the only argument that really holds water, and I'm not convinced it's completely valid. Photoshop is the de facto standard for photo/image editing just about everywhere. Nearly every article you read that deals with the subject, and almost every book available on the subject is based on Photoshop conventions and procedures.

Now that PS8 (CS) has full support for RAW file conversion, it's almost a moot subject, and C1LE, as good as it is, really isn't necessary for most people.

This is not to say that there aren't other good packages available. I just think that swimming upstream should be an undertaking best left to the Salmon.


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Dec 02, 2003 00:23 |  #4

Tom, I climbed onto the Corel PhotoPaint bandwagon years ago, and it works fine for me. Plus, basically, I'm cheap.

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Dec 02, 2003 04:13 |  #5

I'm using BreezeSystems DownloaderPro for image download and storage and then Adobe Photoshop CS for RAW processing work. The whole thing integrates nicely and I no longer need any Canon software on the system. :)

I still have a copy of JASC PaintShop Pro on the machine as I've used this since version 3 and I'm still very familiar with it. I only started using Photoshop at version 7 and I'm still finding my way around now. I would say I'm using Photoshop now maybe 95% of the time but do use PaintShop for quick work.

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Dec 02, 2003 05:26 |  #6

ilya wrote:
Since you have the 10D, you can upgrade Elements to CS for $300. Might as well enter the mainstream at the start, rather then spending money here and there on unintegrated solutions and afterwards getting to PS in any case. Just my opinion.

Sorry ilya, but as Canuck is over here in the UK he cannot do the Elements to PShop CS cheap upgrade as Adobe don't offer that on their UK site - as far as I know.

So Canuck can you stretch to the full price of CS? If you have, or can acquire and earlier version of Photoshop then you can get the upgrade to CS - Amazon at £140 was the cheapest when I got mine.
Really is worth it if you need the power and are prepared to learn it - the learning curve is very steep in the initial stages but perseverance pays off in the end.

All the best.




  
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Dec 02, 2003 05:41 |  #7

I use Paint Shop Pro everyday. I just don't like the software that came with my Camera. I downloaded a FREE Raw Converter, so that is all I need. You can go and get your Free Download for the Canon Raw Converter here at. http://cweb.canon.jp …digitalcamera/r​im202.html (external link) The download Window will open up for you to download it.
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Dec 02, 2003 05:53 |  #8

I use Capture One DSLR LE to convert my RAW files and do exposure, colour and sharpness adjustments. I use Photoshop Elements 2.0 that came with my 10D for cropping and printing. I don't use PS Elements much for corrections etc. because I'm doing that with C1.

I also have Picture Window Pro from Digital Light & Colour: http://www.dl-c.com (external link) which I use for features that PS Elements doesn't have, such as 16-bit editing and changing colour spaces.

I've tried Jasc Paint Shop Pro 8.0, and it's a nice and very user friendly piece of software, but IMO it lacks some indispensable features - most notably colour management. It only understands images in sRGB.


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Dec 02, 2003 06:47 |  #9

robertwgross wrote:
Tom, I climbed onto the Corel PhotoPaint bandwagon years ago, and it works fine for me. Plus, basically, I'm cheap.

---Bob Gross---

I prefer the term 'thrifty.' I'd probably still be using MacPaint 1.0 excepet it only supported B&W. A side benefit was that the whole program (along with the Mac OS) would fit on a 400K floppie. AHHHHH, those were the days.

This is an interesting question, though, lest we PS users be tempted to think we're the only ones out there. I suspect we are far and away the single largest group, however.


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Dec 02, 2003 06:53 |  #10

PaulB wrote:
ilya wrote:
Since you have the 10D, you can upgrade Elements to CS for $300. Might as well enter the mainstream at the start, rather then spending money here and there on unintegrated solutions and afterwards getting to PS in any case. Just my opinion.

Sorry ilya, but as Canuck is over here in the UK he cannot do the Elements to PShop CS cheap upgrade as Adobe don't offer that on their UK site - as far as I know.

So Canuck can you stretch to the full price of CS? If you have, or can acquire and earlier version of Photoshop then you can get the upgrade to CS - Amazon at £140 was the cheapest when I got mine.
Really is worth it if you need the power and are prepared to learn it - the learning curve is very steep in the initial stages but perseverance pays off in the end.

All the best.

Man, Americans get all the breaks.

Canuck - no harm in trying (I think) the American way. See if you can get past the upgrade screen which asks for your SN# (that's before you give them your CC#). Opt for the download, and it shouldn't be a problem. I'm not sure if you'll get the "Americanized" version as a result, you'll just have to learn to spell "color" properly.


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Dec 02, 2003 09:17 |  #11

Also,. he's in England,. but He's a US Service man,.. no?


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Dec 02, 2003 09:22 |  #12

Come to think of it,.. C1 LE and Adobe Elements is not a bad combo either.. at $99.00 for C1 LE and Elements free with the Camera...


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Dec 02, 2003 09:24 |  #13

CyberDyneSystems wrote:
Also,. he's in England,. but He's a US Service man,.. no?

CDS,
Yes I am, US Armed Forces Europe. I call this the best of both worlds! I should be able to easily get my hands on any US software I like. The end of the day I am American. Uncle Sam was nice enough to give me a trip over here and I do thank him.




  
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Dec 02, 2003 10:38 |  #14

Welcome to the UK. hope you got posted somewhere nice.
I thought that the light levels had gone down lately - or is that winter kicking in?




  
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Dec 02, 2003 11:19 |  #15

PaulB wrote:
Welcome to the UK. hope you got posted somewhere nice.
I thought that the light levels had gone down lately - or is that winter kicking in?

Paul,
Thanks! I've been here a while already and really like it! I'm not looking forward to returning to the US. I'm in East Anglia. I would have liked to go to the Cotswolds, or just not the Fenland. I've seen a good chunk of Southern England from Bristol to Dover on the southern coast including Canterbury and Deal. I have kinda forgotten about the centre, like above the Isle of Wight. I have yet to see the Cornish Coast, and Devon. I've seen South coast of Wales from where it meets England to past Tenby/Saundersfoot peninsula, including the Gower. Is that St David? I can't remember. I've also seen bits of Shropshire, and lots around Warwick area. Then there is also Birmingham area that is also covered. In East Anglia, there is Norwich, Norfolk, Cambridgeshire and Suffolk that has been done. I have to get to Cromer and Great Yarmouth yet but that will be sorted in the nicer weather. There is a lot more, but that's the condensed version.

Is that winter I feel coming? It was a really mild summer, a record of sorts from what I heard. It will be nice to have a proper winter. Darkness is upon us, some days I wonder if the sun even comes up, especially those all day rain and super thick days of cloud that England is known for. LOL! Fog is another interesting bit, especially here in Fenland. I can't speak for the rest of England, but it seems to me that you haven't seen fog till you have seen it over here. I'm really gonna miss it here, I can see this already.




  
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