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Sep 06, 2006 07:34 |  #1

Was wondering if anyone has any experience at using a 300mm f2.8 as a macro lens? After investing such a lot of money in a lens i would like to try and get the most out of it and wonderd if anyone had used extension tubes etc and got good results.If i stack the TCs i have i get quiet a good result but the minimum focusing distance is still about 8 foot from the subject.

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Sep 06, 2006 07:37 |  #2

Wow, that's a fiercly narrow DOF with those TCs added.

I'd also like to know what would happen if I put extension tubes on my 70-200?


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Sep 06, 2006 14:40 |  #3

Might have a use for capturing in-flight Dragonflies but otherwise not the handiest set up for macros. I have a 300 f4 which I have tried out with 'tame' butterflies. In the wild I would be glad of the working distance perhaps:

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Sep 06, 2006 14:43 as a reply to  @ Pete's post |  #4

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Wow, that's a fiercly narrow DOF with those TCs added.

I'd also like to know what would happen if I put extension tubes on my 70-200?

again a tame butterfly, this time with the 70-200f4 (no tube), tubes will get you closer but youd be better off with a shorter prime.

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Sep 06, 2006 15:00 |  #5

Remembering that a normal macro lens has a max magnification of 1:1, the formula for working out the magnification of adding ext tubes to a non- macro lens is
Mag= length of tubes mm/focal length of lens.
So a 300mm with the normal 68mm of tubes would give 0.23:1 Obviously adding a TC as well would multiply this magnification but overall you would end up with a pretty unwieldy lens but fine for butterflies and dragonflies.
A 70-200mm lens with a full set of tubes and the lens set at 70mm would give just under 1:1 so would be far more sensible.
By full set of tubes I mean similar to a Kenko set.
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Sep 06, 2006 15:33 |  #6

Thanks for the replies guys,it was just a thought as most of the time the 300 sits in its case but i would hate to sell it.Will have to invest in a set of tubes in any case and have a play with them and start saving for a macro lens.Had a stunning lens for my old Minolta which gave 3x magnification but i sold the lot when i changed to digital and invested it all in Canon gear.


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Sep 06, 2006 16:17 |  #7

i'll swap you my Sigma 150macro - you can still take motor sports though you may find the AF a tad slower.


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If you can afford a 300mm f2.8 (lucky bastard), then you can afford a set of tubes to go with your 50mm, or better still, a dedicated macro lens ;) The problem is that that lens is very heavy, and very large. For dragonfly/butterfly/da​mselfies it might be ok, but it's very cumbersome and you'll almost certainly have to use a monopod at the minimum, most probably a tripod.

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Sep 06, 2006 19:03 as a reply to  @ LordV's post |  #9

LordV wrote:
Remembering that a normal macro lens has a max magnification of 1:1, the formula for working out the magnification of adding ext tubes to a non- macro lens is
Mag= length of tubes mm/focal length of lens.
So a 300mm with the normal 68mm of tubes would give 0.23:1 Obviously adding a TC as well would multiply this magnification but overall you would end up with a pretty unwieldy lens but fine for butterflies and dragonflies.
A 70-200mm lens with a full set of tubes and the lens set at 70mm would give just under 1:1 so would be far more sensible.
By full set of tubes I mean similar to a Kenko set.
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Brian, that being the case... why aren't people using the 28mm or 24mm with tubes? I calculate approx 2.4:1 for the 28mm 2.8:1 for the 24mm. Is it something to do with distortion?


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Dan, you would get extremely bad distortion at the edges plus severe vignetting I suspect.

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Sep 06, 2006 19:39 |  #11

The distortion could be cool :) like using a wideangle on a close portrait, except for bugs! I don't think there'd be too much vignetting on a 1.6x crop... of course I might be wrong... Anyone actually tried it??


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Nope, haven't tried it Dan as I don't have a prime wide angle, only my 20-35mm f2.8.

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Sep 06, 2006 19:51 |  #13

..and what result did you get with that?


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..and what result did you get with that?

Never tried it rofl!!!

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Sep 06, 2006 20:02 |  #15

LMAO!!!


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