Canon's "Picture Styles" Survey...

I'm agree with you, when first time i owned DSLR, i dont even know whats the diff between RAW & JPEG, after i read the info from forums, then i started to know all the functions, but afterall what's the percentage of canon users who read the forum over the internet.. (especially people who just moved from digicam)

Ive seen some of 30D & 5D users who doesnt even know how to change and function of one shot and ai servo, and i doubt they can use the RAW function properly.

PacAce wrote:
I've been playing with the Picture Styles the last couple of weeks and I've come up with a customized version that gives me the same image look as I would get if I were to convert the raw files using Neutral picture style and then running the TIFF file through my normal PSCS PP actions. With this custom setting loaded into my 30D, then, should the need arise to either shoot JPEG (I shoot RAW 99.9% of the time) or batch convert a whole bunch of raw files straight to JPEG with DPP (when I don't have the time nor the inclination to process them through PSCS), the images will come out looking basically like how they would had I taken them through my standard post processing actions in PSCS.

And when looking at the thumbnails in DPP, I'll be able to see exactly how the final color will look like as opposed to trying to visualize it while looking at a neutrally colored thumbnail as I've been doing in the past.

Of course, I'm still going to be hand processing the few selected images going to my gallery but I can definitely see how the customized picture style could come in very handy and save me a lot of processing time for the other pictures.

I'm with you on this. I use Picture Styles pretty much the same way. When viewing the images via DPP, it gives you a great starting point for post-processing. And someone else mentioned photojournalist or sports photographers who shoot jpeg and don't have the time to post process the images for print, Picture Styles can be an invaluable tool for those professionals as well. Interesting to see how this poll turned out. Thanks for participating.

Never use it. Played with it for about a week when my 30D's were new...have never used again. I can see where it could be useful, even for a pro, but it really has no place in my shooting. I shoot RAW and like to control it all after that. I don't want the camera making those processing decisions.... same reason I shoot 99% manual I guess.

I like them, my favorite is Lanscape, makes the greens and blues really colorful

We're on the same page here. Some of the best shots I have ever taken were done with Landscape. Some of them were shot in JPEG. Some of them have won me cool stuff in competitions.

... works for me.

(nothing against the RAW folks, but leave me to do my own processing or LACK THEREOF if I so choose...)

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the default Picture Style- Standard, hurt workflow for RAW shooting?

By default the Standard Style increases the Sharpness to +3.

If you use DPP then increasing picture sharpness is the first thing that is done when converting the file.

Shouldn't adjusting sharpness be the last thing one adjusts in raw workflow?

I don't really use them on the 30D but I do use the ones on my S3 sometimes.

RichNY wrote in post #2239795
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the default Picture Style- Standard, hurt workflow for RAW shooting?

By default the Standard Style increases the Sharpness to +3.

If you use DPP then increasing picture sharpness is the first thing that is done when converting the file.

Shouldn't adjusting sharpness be the last thing one adjusts in raw workflow?

I think you're wrong. Those parameters don't necessarily apply to the RAW file at all. I don't use DPP, I use RSP2006, so I'm not 100% sure about DPP, but in RSP I have the option of applying any sharpening that have added in the RSP adjustments. Nothing is applied from the in-camera parameters by default. I like it that way.

That said, I don't think its always a bad idea to apply your sharpening before the final step in the workflow. I know several other pros who like to apply some sharpening around the beginning to middle of the workflow on certain images.

dsze wrote in post #2240104
I think you're wrong. Those parameters don't necessarily apply to the RAW file at all. I don't use DPP, I use RSP2006, so I'm not 100% sure about DPP, but in RSP I have the option of applying any sharpening that have added in the RSP adjustments. Nothing is applied from the in-camera parameters by default. I like it that way.

That said, I don't think its always a bad idea to apply your sharpening before the final step in the workflow. I know several other pros who like to apply some sharpening around the beginning to middle of the workflow on certain images.

As far as I'm aware, the applying of Styles settings when converting to RAW is strictly a DPP thing; if your using RSP then it wouldn't make any difference.

But that said, you (as is Luminous Landscape and others) are in agreement that applying sharpening before the final step in the workflow is a bad idea, hence my comment.

RichNY wrote in post #2240227
if your using RSP then it wouldn't make any difference.

Thats what I said

RichNY wrote in post #2240227
But that said, you (as is Luminous Landscape and others) are in agreement that applying sharpening before the final step in the workflow is a bad idea, hence my comment.

No, I am not in agreement with this. I don't necessarily think that sharpening should ALWAYS be the final step. There are situations within certain post-processes that I think benefit from some sharpening early on.

I think if DPP doesn't give you the option to NOT apply sharpening in the RAW conversion, then you might look for a new converter.

PacAce wrote in post #1960351
I've been playing with the Picture Styles the last couple of weeks and I've come up with a customized version that gives me the same image look as I would get if I were to convert the raw files using Neutral picture style and then running the TIFF file through my normal PSCS PP actions. With this custom setting loaded into my 30D, then, should the need arise to either shoot JPEG (I shoot RAW 99.9% of the time) or batch convert a whole bunch of raw files straight to JPEG with DPP (when I don't have the time nor the inclination to process them through PSCS), the images will come out looking basically like how they would had I taken them through my standard post processing actions in PSCS.

And when looking at the thumbnails in DPP, I'll be able to see exactly how the final color will look like as opposed to trying to visualize it while looking at a neutrally colored thumbnail as I've been doing in the past.

Of course, I'm still going to be hand processing the few selected images going to my gallery but I can definitely see how the customized picture style could come in very handy and save me a lot of processing time for the other pictures.

Leo.. your post is very intrigueing... as i'm now tempted to ask if you would share your customized setting. i shoot RAW also, but i can defintely see where you're coming from, because that would definitely help out with my current workflow.. which takes too long of a time. haha

so if you could share that, i'd greatly appreciated. much thanks.

I never use them, always shoot in Raw
Cant find where to click my choice?

"Picture Styles" fantastic idea. You can download different styles from Canons' site "Great Fun" then you can spend at least an hour or two messing about with them, "Great for long Winter evenngs", And then... ..............., you can change the settings and get pretty coloured text on your menu, Oh and not forgetting the Fn to have it appear on a press of the 'Set' button. My goodness can you even imagine not having something as fun as that.
And to top it all I think it can be used for picture taking. Toooooo much eh?

I use it every now and then, but i'd rather just post process through the computer.

By the way, you don't necessarily need a 30D or 5D to experiment with picture styles. Those users with 300D or 350D can download DPP from Canon's website (you need to have zoombrowser/fileviewer installed on the computer... which presumably you have since you have the camera).

DPP can add the styles to your pics during conversion.