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70-200L 2.8 - IS OR NOT??? (i could use some help)

 
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Sep 10, 2006 20:34 as a reply to  @ post 1963978 |  #31

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Well thanks guys for all of your help...



The reason i want IS is because i have the Canon 17-85 IS, and i really do use IS a lot. If i got the 70-200, i dont know if i would use the IS as much or not, but i would hate to not get it, and then regret it later. I dont konw what i would be shooting much of at 200mm using IS, but, im sure i would just becuase i use it frequently on my 17-85... you know what i mean?

For all of you that answered to GET the IS, do you really use IS when you are shooting at telephoto lengths, or at least as much as you thought you would?

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Don't know if I saw this answered but yes the more telephoto mm you have the more you generally need IS because of the inherent need for higher shutter speeds and the fact that smaller camera movements create more camera shake on longer telephoto's. So IF you use IS then it is more important on 200 mm than 100mm, etc.


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Sep 10, 2006 20:45 |  #32

My 2 cents:

The 70-200 f/2.8 IS was the first "really nice" lens that I purchased and I have never regretted opting for IS. As others have mentioned, if you are shooting outdoor sports in daylight, you probably don't need IS or even f/2.8. And, as you know, IS won't help with motion blur when your shutter speeds are slow.

But the combination of fast lens with IS makes it very versatile which was important to me. The 70-200 f/2.8 IS works very well for me when photographing my daughter's orchestra concerts. With the stage lighting, f/2.8 @ ISO 400 is just good enough to shutter speeds around 1/60s. I am always hand holding the camera at these events, so the IS helps a lot. And, since the subjects are sitting relatively still, motion blur isn't an issue. And what motion blur there is, such as the movement of a bow arm/hand conveys movement and adds an artistic quality IMO.

Now, my daughter's dance recitals are another matter altogether. Under the same stage lighting, f/2.8 isn't nearly fast enough to get shutter speeds fast enough to freeze a fast moving dancer, hence the faster primes. And when the shutter speeds are fast enough to stop the dancers, I don't need IS.


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Sep 10, 2006 21:04 as a reply to  @ post 1967021 |  #33

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If you don't get it, you won't be able to use it when you need it.

That's exactly what I believe. When I decided to get a 70-200, I couldn't justify the Canon IS, so I settled with the Sigma 70-200 which served me very well. The quality is on a par with the Canon (non-IS). After using the Sigma for 8 months, I just upgraded to the IS.


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Sep 11, 2006 00:27 |  #34

i am planning to buy this lens too. The F/4 L IS looks promising, but i think if you need the low light capability, the f/2.8 IS may be more useful for you.


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Sep 11, 2006 00:29 |  #35

I dont have IS on mine, works great for me!


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Sep 11, 2006 02:01 as a reply to  @ Doom1701e's post |  #36

Let us know when you get it...............

Don't forget to post some nice "duck" images toooo:)


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Sep 11, 2006 02:04 |  #37

The answer is different for everyone. Without knowing what you'll be shooting with it and what your priorities are, it's impossible to say it would be worth the extra $500.

That being said, if money is no problem, go ahead and get the IS as there is bound to be at least a small percentage of shots where IS will prove valuable.

If money is an issue, then the question is more about whether or not the type of shooting you do (most often) would benefit from having IS?

The answer is not the same for everyone and that's why every version of this popular range has it's fans and detractors.

I find the extra stop of light of the f/2.8L to be valuable to me, but don't find myself wanting IS very much at all considering the price differential.

Your needs are not likely the same as mine, nor everyone else's. Figure out what is best for you and then get the lens that fit's YOU the best.

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surfologist wrote:
hey all, hows it going?

I have a Rebel XT, and the 17-85 IS lens, and i am looking to get the 70-200 2.8.
Spending $1000 on a lens is quite a bit, but i am willing to do it, because i know it is a good piece of glass. I CAN NOT decide wether or not to get the IS or not. For almost $600 dollars more is it worth it?

I have the 17-85 IS, and i absolutely love the IS feature. BUT, since i already have it on that one, is it needed on the 70-200 too? I want it, but cant make up my mind to spend the 600 extra bones.
I am the type of person that down the road will wish i had gotten it, if i didnt make the purchase in the beginning, but do you all suggest it?
And you that did not get the IS, do you wish you did?
I really am not up for the f/4 IS, because i think i could use the f2.8 a whole lot more.
Then again, when shooting inside, will a f/4 work? or should i stick with the 2.8?

Really, i guess my decision is: "f/2.8" or "f/4 IS" ---- OR! is it best to just go all out: "f/2.8 IS"
I have been waiting for the f/4 IS for a while, but lately been thinking that 2.8 would be a better decision. But then, what do i know?
Guys and gals... please help me.

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Sep 11, 2006 05:41 |  #38

I ws in the same delima as you a few weeks ago and asked the same question, but in the sports forum https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=197304. I have decided to go with the 70-200L IS. I am just waiting to make a trip to the US to buy mine. Hope fully by the end of this month i should have it.


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Sep 11, 2006 06:28 as a reply to  @ post 1968364 |  #39

surfologist wrote:
Hey meaty, thanks for the very well thought out, and inspiring post. I admire your amazing contemplation on this intense subject.
I look forward to you future support!:D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol:

Hey! Do I detect a slight whiff of sarcasm there?

Okay, it seems you doubt my sincerity. Just for the moment, put all the "pumping iron, bicep-building:D" qualities of this beast-of-a-lens aside and consider the image of mine below...

IMAGE: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3195/antechinusflavipes10jk.jpg

Sure, it's not a fantastic image (it's a very rare, little Aussie marsupial called Antechinus), but look at the EXIF... Handheld, 1/15th second at 200mm, f/2.8, ISO 400. This was taken in a dark rainforest, in dull morning light. I steadied myself against a nearby tree. These are shy little bastards and move like lightning. I couldn't have got this shot with ANY other lens. There was no time to set up the tripod. IS was the reason it's sharp.

Does that convince you? It should! Buy it...get the IS.

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Sep 11, 2006 15:34 as a reply to  @ AlexMa's post |  #40

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Let us know when you get it...............

Don't forget to post some nice "duck" images toooo:)


Ducks were actually the first thing i was planning on making my 'victim' haha :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Sep 12, 2006 21:22 |  #41

The pictures on this site ( the ones taken By Paul Patterson) were used with the 70-200mm IS, I used the 20d, not bad, it's very usefull
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Sep 12, 2006 23:16 |  #42

Get the IS if your funds permit
even shooting birds in daylight at 200mm if tough IS helps a lot when you dont' have time for a tripod


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Sep 13, 2006 01:10 as a reply to  @ jev's post |  #43

I went with the non-IS myself. Do I wonder what could have been had I spent the extra for the IS, of course I do every now and again. I simply couldn't justify the difference in price for what is at best a hobby(lol, still haven't figured out a way to justify the non-IS).

If I run into a situation where I need to slow down the shutter I just stick it on a mono or tri as I'll always seem to have one or the other on hand.


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Sep 13, 2006 09:17 |  #44

With approximately the same money of the IS you can get some of the best Canon primes:

Canon 85 f/1.8: $330.00
Canon 135/2L: $869.95
Canon 200/2.8L II: $639.95

Have you considered this?

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