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Sep 09, 2006 19:03 |  #1

I am having some issues with my 120-300 that I need to get resolved. It seems to be back focusing a little, but not all the time. I haven't taken the time to look at the EXIF to see if it is only at a certain focal length or not:o . I am just looking for a way to test it, so that I can verify if it is backfocusing or not. I have only recently started using it, so it may very well be user error also.

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Sep 09, 2006 19:19 |  #2

Print something like this out

http://www.photo.net/l​earn/focustest/scale45​.jpg (external link)

Then use the centre focus point on your cam and set it right in the middle of the chart and have the camera at a 45 degree angle.

That should show you if the lens is front or back focussing.

I might be totally wrong so everyone feel free to correct me.


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Sep 09, 2006 19:25 as a reply to  @ fatdeeman's post |  #3

Thanks, that is kind of what I was thinking.

So then I just do the same test at different focal lengths? What aperture is recommended (my guess would be wide open)?

Any other advice?

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Sep 09, 2006 19:30 |  #4

Definatley wide open because a smaller aperture will increase the DOF which will help to mask focusing issues. I don't think it's essential to try various focal lenghs but I don't think it would hurt either.

Use a tripod if possible because it will eradicate the chance of human error and when you are shooting wide open small movements back and forth can give the impression of focus problems.

That's about all I can think of!

I'm surprised I came up with that to be honest, learnt a lot from this forum!


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Sep 20, 2006 17:50 as a reply to  @ fatdeeman's post |  #5

So I finally got around to testing my lens. Now my question is; how critical is the 45 degree angle? I had to do quick set-up and didn't measure anything:oops: . Also I thought that I was shooting straight on but it appears I wasn't after looking at the shots on the computer:oops: :oops: .

I won't post any resultant shots until I know for sure that I did this correctly, so any help is appreciated.

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Sep 21, 2006 20:50 as a reply to  @ Travis F's post |  #6

Well even though I am not sure if I did the test correctly or not, here is an example at 300mm f/2.8. I used mirror lock-up and a remote switch.

If anyone can help I would appreciate it.

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Sep 21, 2006 20:59 |  #7

hey Travis where did u get that chart? i see it all over the place and would like to test my lenses just for the hell of it.How would i measure 45degrees anyways?


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Sep 21, 2006 21:03 |  #8

Read the thread from the top.

To me, tha looks like it's back focussing. But does it really matter that much? Lots of peoples are, i should think and they dont seem to mind or notice.


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Sep 21, 2006 21:21 |  #9

sando wrote in post #2019690 (external link)
But does it really matter that much? Lots of peoples are, i should think and they dont seem to mind or notice.

To me, yes it matters. I do alot of my sports shots wide open, so I need the focus to be spot on. If I was always stopping down, then no it probably wouldn't matter much. Also I didn't buy a 2.8 zoom to use it at 5.6 and above. I have seen what this lens can do, so that is what I expect from my copy also;) .

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Sep 21, 2006 21:28 |  #10

bluej511 wrote in post #2019676 (external link)
hey Travis where did u get that chart? i see it all over the place and would like to test my lenses just for the hell of it.How would i measure 45degrees anyways?

I got the test chart here - http://www.focustestch​art.com/chart.html (external link)

To set a 45 degree angle measure an equal distance back from the focus spot and up to the camera. If you remember from geometry, a 45,45,90 degree triangle has two sides of equal length and two equal angles (45°). If I could sketch it here it would help illustrate the point, but I am sure you get it.

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Sep 21, 2006 21:35 |  #11

did RikiWriter sell you a dud? Have you consulted him about it?


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Sep 21, 2006 21:48 as a reply to  @ BigBlueDodge's post |  #12

How good are this test since the focusing distance is very small comparative to sports shots? Obviously, we cannot print a large scale version of this chart to test at a greater distance!!!

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Sep 21, 2006 21:50 |  #13

JohnTheLuck wrote in post #2019845 (external link)
How good are this test since the focusing distance is very small comparative to sports shots? Obviously, we cannot print a large scale version of this chart to test at a greater distance!!!

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The point of the test is to check for front or back focusing. It's assumed that if the focus is spot-on then back focusing or front focusing at any distance should be close to or pretty much non-existent.


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Sep 21, 2006 21:55 |  #14

BryanP wrote in post #2019854 (external link)
The point of the test is to check for front or back focusing. It's assumed that if the focus is spot-on then back focusing or front focusing at any distance should be close to or pretty much non-existent.

Is this assumption really true? It seems logical, but is it true?

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Sep 21, 2006 21:56 |  #15

BigBlueDodge wrote in post #2019798 (external link)
did RikiWriter sell you a dud? Have you consulted him about it?

Now, why in the world would you think that?

I have in fact talked to him about it. He has been more than helpful (or vey helpful, if you listen to George Carlin). I don't think that he would knowingly pass on a "dud" lens to someone. Just a feeling I have about him:cool: .

The thing is, I can't be sure if the lens is a "dud" or if I am. I have never had any problems shooting the same style shots with my 70-200 2.8 or with my friend's 300L 2.8. So I "think" my long lens technique is OK, but I can't be too sure either:confused: .

All I know is that I really want to get this issue resolved, and if anyone here can coach me on my next steps I would REALLY appreciate it. When this lens hits focus it is awesome, but when it misses..... well that's why I am here.

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