good deal?

http://cgi.ebay.com …07907QQrdZ1QQcm​dZViewItem

No. You are paying a lot for a very ordinary set of kit, most of which is low grade.

Avoid!

You are far better off buying from B&H or one of the other established retailers.

I have to agree with Steve. You can pick up the 20D body from B&H for under $1000 and get the lenses you need.

Why not as other posters type go to an established camera place.
Maybe some of ths E-bay offering package isn't really necessary for you either-+

Well, believe it or not, 97.9% feedback on Ebay isn't stellar. It's not horrible, just not good enough for me to trust sending someone $1568. Look at the negs before buying ... only you can tell if it's a risk that you're willing to take.

By the way, most of the "adders" in the offer are junk IMO. You can get the camera with the three Canon lenses from B&H for $1444.85.

The picture shown of the 28-105 is for the least expensive one - $124.95
The 20D plus 18-55 is worth $1159.95
The 75-300 f/4.0-5.6 III is $159.95

Also, none of the above Canon lenses are superb, and you may be happier with buying just the 20D ($989.95) with one good lens for now, such as the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 ($379). I don't know how picky you are or what you want to shoot though ... so what do I know

Also, if you are from North America check to ensure that the 20D comes with a USA/Canada warranty. It's not apparent from the add if it is a USA/Canada model or if it is grey market.

what would be a good lenses to start off with...i shoot cars, nature and animals...

example shots i have taken....

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Do you have a film SLR? If you do, what lenses do you use the most?

no, atm i am using a canon a610

The three images you displayed could probably all be taken with the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8. The stream photo isn't that wide and the flower isn't "macro". If you need something wider you could look at the Canon 17-85 f/4-5.6 IS ($509.95), which is reported to be a pretty decent lens. The Tamron would be better for low light situations, while the 17-85 gives up low level performance but is much wider.

i found that lense for 429...any other suggestions?

An awesome kit might even be a Rebel XT with a 24-105 f/4L IS . With the way the XT has dropped in price you could pick this up for $1779 at B&H. If you are on a tight budget I feel you'll get more bang from the buck by going with the XT and a good lens verus going with the 20D and low end consumer glass. There are a few lower cost "gems" out there like the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8, unfortunately I only have limited experience with them.

One lens that I own that is decent (but I don't use it much since I picked up the Canon 24-75 f/2.8L) is the Canon 28-105 f/3.5-4.5 II USM ($230). It's a tiny bit soft until stopped down to f/8 or at f-stops greater than f/11, but is one of the best bangs for the buck that Canon has. Maybe take a look at the lens sticky on this forum to get some ideas then check www.bhphotovideo.com to check prices.

i have my heart set on the 20d because of the burst rate it can do...i plan on shooting some fast race cars at my local track and at road america...i need fast


thanks for the help...i might look into refurbs also