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17-55 f2.8 IS v 17-40 f4 L for landscapes

 
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Sep 11, 2006 09:57 |  #16
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Seems to me that purely for landscapes there's little in it, plus you're making a substantial saving with the 17-40mm.


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Sep 11, 2006 11:04 as a reply to  @ radiohead's post |  #17

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Seems to me that purely for landscapes there's little in it, plus you're making a substantial saving with the 17-40mm.

That is defenitly my feeling also.


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Sep 11, 2006 11:16 as a reply to  @ post 1969322 |  #18

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How important is speed when it comes to landscape? I would think resolution, color, etc is more important than speed.

That's what I was thinking even though I love a blazing fast lens. Landscapes don't run away, and for long exposures you would want to be tripod-mounted anyway. In fact when I use my 17-40 for landscapes I'm usually stopped down to f/8!




  
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Sep 11, 2006 18:14 |  #19

Perhaps I should have made myself clearer. I want to compare these lenses purely from a landscape view (IQ, colour, sharpness etc). I understand that I dont need faster glass or IS for landscape and that the 17-40 is cheaper and is an L after all. As I said in my original post, I will probably be getting the 17-55 because of all the other benfits it has over the 17-40. But, since landscape is important to me, I would like to know what I will be compromising getting the 17-55 over the 17-40 - from a landscape perspective. If you did 70% landscape and 30% other - which would you choose? - forgetting price.




  
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Sep 11, 2006 18:31 as a reply to  @ post 1969354 |  #20

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There is no doubt that the 17-55 is more versatile. I am almost certain that I will choose the 17-55 over the 17-40. But I would like to know what and if I am compromising from a landscape point of view. I would hate to think that after buying the 17-55 I would down the track require a better landscape lens.

i chose the 17-40. costs half as much as the 17-55, is an L lens which means it's built like a tank, doesn't suck dust and will hold its value.

the 17-40 also controls flare very well and the 17-55 reportedly does not. when you are shooting landscapes @ f8 - f11 controlling flare is a much bigger deal than f2.8 and IS, imo.

the only way i'd consider buying the 17-55 is if it covered my primary shooting range, which it does not.

i need to be able to do a head shot with my main lens without shoving up it up someone's nose ;) .

the 17-40 is a superb landscape lens and quality tools are always a joy to use :D .

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Sep 12, 2006 12:28 |  #21

so. At f8, how does the 17-40 compare to the kit? I imagine they're pretty darn close. So save even more money and just by that one.




  
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Sep 12, 2006 12:56 as a reply to  @ jojohohanon's post |  #22

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so. At f8, how does the 17-40 compare to the kit? I imagine they're pretty darn close. So save even more money and just by that one.

LOL :) Have you been checking pictures of the two? Center sharpness, corner sharpness, colour... please...


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Sep 12, 2006 13:51 as a reply to  @ jojohohanon's post |  #23

jojohohanon wrote:
so. At f8, how does the 17-40 compare to the kit? I imagine they're pretty darn close. So save even more money and just by that one.

like i said in another thread if you can't tell the difference save your money. i know for me the only great landscapes i've gotten are with the high quality lenses, and the 17-40 has been the best.

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Sep 12, 2006 20:08 as a reply to  @ ed rader's post |  #24

ed rader wrote:
like i said in another thread if you can't tell the difference save your money. i know for me the only great landscapes i've gotten are with the high quality lenses, and the 17-40 has been the best.

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Exactly. If we looked at everything from a cost/benefit analysis, we'd all be holding P&S. Remember: the first 80% of the quality costs 20% to achieve. The remaining 20% costs 80% to achieve. So the argument that "it should deliver 3X the quality for 3X the price" is fatally flawed.. life itself doesn't work that way.

Besides (not for you, Ed), the EF-S 18-55 won't fit on my 5D... why does *EVERYBODY* (almost) assume I am shooting on a crop camera? Using the 17-40 on my 350D when I have a 17-85 to do that job is complete anathema to me!




  
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