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Sep 12, 2006 04:57 |  #1

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I recently have purchased a Sigma 10-20mm wideangle lens and have taken afew shots of landscapes with nice blue sky with a polarizing filter and it seems all the time i take pics with it the sky looks flat.. in the view finder the sky looks like its got depth and goes for miles but when i see the pic on screen all the depth has gone and its all flat looking..

is this because i am using a wideangle lens? or is it the polarizing filter??
im abit confused because i have seen people take pics with wideangle lenses and the sky looks normal with depth.. so im not sure what i am doing wrong...
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below is a pic i have taken from deviantart.. i really like this pic because the sky looks rich and in depth.. you can see it goes back for miles

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here are two pics i took on the weekend.. the sky in real life looked like the above but once taken with the sigma + polarizing filter this is what it looks like:


basically i wanna know how do i get the sky looking like the 1st pic i have shown... what sort of lenses will produce this effect?


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Sep 12, 2006 05:12 |  #2

The sky looks flat because your camera is trying to find the best exposure for the shot. It has to blow out the the clouds a bit in order to get a good exposure on the foreground.

I would try using a graduated neutral density filter.


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Sep 12, 2006 05:43 as a reply to  @ volleybrad's post |  #3

I think that, in part, its down to composition. In that first image the river is leading the eye into the scene. In the second, for me, the pond acts as a block to the eye and in the third, I think there is too much sky. Have you tried cropping some of the sky to see how it looks? :)


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Sep 12, 2006 06:37 as a reply to  @ weemannie's post |  #4

weemannie wrote:
I think that, in part, its down to composition. In that first image the river is leading the eye into the scene. In the second, for me, the pond acts as a block to the eye and in the third, I think there is too much sky. Have you tried cropping some of the sky to see how it looks? :)

i could crop it but why would that make any difference?

you can see straight away the clouds are not in depth

this is the kind of effect i want to get:


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Sep 12, 2006 08:43 |  #5

can anyone please help?


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Sep 12, 2006 08:51 |  #6

Id say it comes down to PP? Just my $0.02


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Sep 12, 2006 09:58 |  #7

I second the Grad ND


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Sep 12, 2006 10:21 |  #8

CP's are best used and yield their best results when the sun is closer to the horizon. If you search there is a good thread on the used of CPs.


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Sep 12, 2006 10:59 |  #9

Alot depends on time of day, direction of the sun, and atmospheric conditions. No two sky shots are ever going to be the same due to the interaction of all these factors.I believe your sample photo was taken at a high altitude which makes the skies a deeper blue. And a polarizer can give an equal effect if the skies are clear of haze and the sun is in the right position relative to the camera's view. I think this one was done with a graduated ND because you can usually see that the mountain on the right is darker where it sticks up into part of the image affected by the GND filter.




  
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Sep 12, 2006 11:59 as a reply to  @ Dante King's post |  #10

Dante King wrote:
CP's are best used and yield their best results when the sun is closer to the horizon. If you search there is a good thread on the used of CPs.

I must have been out the day we talked about CP's..LOL
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Sep 12, 2006 12:24 |  #11

i vote for a gradual neutral density filter aswell. best way to get good esposure of sky and ground.

on another note, looks like the guy you took the picture from needs to get some thin filters, or not stack them.


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Sep 12, 2006 12:26 as a reply to  @ verty's post |  #12

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can anyone please help?

To my mind, part of the problem is the distance to the horizon. In the images you have captured, the distance to the horizon is only half a mile or so. In the one you are seeking to emulate, there is a second set of peaks some 15 miles away. These lend a depth to the image that is then applied by inference to the sky.

You have to remember that a polariser is not a 'magic bullet', and that in some angles (relative between you, the sun, and the field of view) will not allow the polariser to do anything for you.


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Sep 12, 2006 18:11 |  #13

thanks guys.. i will look into getting a grad ND
is there a better brand of these on the market??


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Sep 12, 2006 18:13 |  #14

B+W makes aurguably some of the best filters out there.


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Sep 12, 2006 18:28 |  #15

But at a price... alot! :lol:


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