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Sep 13, 2006 05:41 |  #1

Ok, honestly, I'm not impressed with this lens... its not sharp at all! I want to replace that range with something better, more sharp... I don't need IS I've steady hands. How much can I get for it? its in mint condition with abit of dust inside...


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Sep 13, 2006 05:57 |  #2

I had the 17-85 and replaced it with the 24-105L, a great lens. I also recently purchased the Tamron 17-50 2,8 and really like it as well. As far as trade in I got $350 from a local dealer. Hope this helps.


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Sep 13, 2006 06:03 |  #3

well yes 24-105L is a good thing :) but its over my budget... I believe I can sell mine for 400$ at ebay... so that's my current budget :D

I heard tamrons, don't remember exact version... one with similar range to 17-85IS is tad sharper...m


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Sep 13, 2006 06:15 as a reply to  @ sandro9mm's post |  #4

I gather the 24-105L is the one to go for, it seems to get great praise all round. I have the EFS17-85 IS USM and my main reservation about it is the amount of CA which is noticeable on some subjects. However I have not found it wanting in sharpness (to my eye anyway)
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Sep 13, 2006 06:31 |  #5

I have the 17-85 and find it not exactly stellar in the sharpness department. CA can be horrendous too.


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Sep 13, 2006 07:03 as a reply to  @ Saudidave's post |  #6

I've heard good things about the 28-105 3.5-4.5 USM

http://www.fredmiranda​.com …=206&sort=7&cat​=27&page=3 (external link)


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Sep 13, 2006 07:09 |  #7

Is the business end of this central flower not sharp?

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But, if you've got it in your head that your lens isn't good enough, then by all means buy another one. Being happy with your own pictures is your own perception, after all...

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Sep 13, 2006 07:20 |  #8

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well u cannot tell sharpness without 100% crops :) give me a crop of that photo, from the center :)
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Sep 13, 2006 07:35 |  #9

I tested mine at 70-85mm at f 5.6, against the 70-200f4 at 5.6 and there was no difference. Images have gone now though. The only complaints I had with this lens were CA, at the wide end and edge softness (on a crop cam this is a bad thing!) in the corners...but overall it took some fabulous pictures and for range and IS there is nothing else like it (except the 24-105 on a FF cam which is just incredible).


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Sep 13, 2006 07:44 as a reply to  @ sandro9mm's post |  #10

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well u cannot tell sharpness without 100% crops :) give me a crop of that photo, from the center :)
thx

I don't have access to my RAW files right now, so I'll PM you the crop when I get back home again.

But, my opinion, I'm happy with the sharpness of my lens at the photo size at which I'm viewing it. In my experience, it's a difficult exercise to pixel peep and at the same time keep a handle on the larger picture.


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Sep 13, 2006 07:53 |  #11

This is a lens which certainly does have some flaws as others have mentioned, CA and distortion at the wide end being the most noteable. Sharpness is not one of it's weak areas though.

Centre sharpness on a good copy of this lens should be very acceptable. I know you got yours second hand - is it possible the vendor passed it onto you because it didn't perform well for him? If it's only the sharpness of the lens which is dissappointing you then perhaps look at getting it calibrated by Canon. If you just don't like the lens overall then there are no direct replacements but you could look at the following: 17-40 similar pricing but no IS and smaller focal range, 17-55 IS has fixed 2.8 max aperture throughout the range but more expensive, Sigma 17-70 seems to get good reviews. HTH!




  
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Sep 13, 2006 11:13 |  #12

true, its a second hand purchase, I got it for 350$, but I don't think he was getting rid of it for its quality... I know that guy and he's upgrading to L, that's why he sold off all his non L's for quite nice price.

I've allot of dust inside though... allot! But as the reviews suggest its pretty known problem with this lens.

and I'm not much into landscape photography, and 17-40 wouldn't be a good choice, I THINK :D I do street photography, and maybe longer lens would do it?

I'm also looking at this post: https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=1967228#p​ost1967228
that could get me a decent range and I would end up with more money in my pocket... I'm not sure how this 55-200 compares to the 17-85 on its range of course, 55-85 but I guess it shouldn't be bad...

I'm still thinking and open to suggestions... I may as well stick with my 17-85 since I'm not that crazy about sharpness unless I get right shot /contrast and colors :D


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Sep 13, 2006 19:19 |  #13

I really like my 17-85. Use it way more than my L lenses. When wide you really need to stop it down some if possible.

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Sep 13, 2006 23:50 |  #14

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Sigma 17-70, it's faster, sharper, less CA, less distortion, and less dough too.


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Sep 14, 2006 00:23 |  #15

was just gonna say the Sigma 17-70, lots of good reviews on it. I think there's even a post with a bunch of pics in here.


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