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Dec 11, 2003 10:11 |  #1

Hi all, maybe you can help. I'm interested in hooking up my 10D direct to my laptop when shooting. That would let my client preview the image and help when shooting to a 8X10 format, "seeing the crop factor". What do I need? Also is there a wireless method for doing the same thing.
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Dec 11, 2003 11:04 |  #2

It depends on what you mean by preview.

Your camera will not allow you to see the image in advance of the shutter release. That is what the P&S photographers call preview.

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Dec 11, 2003 11:15 |  #3

No, post shutter release. Take the shot and it appears on the laptop. Possible?
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Dec 11, 2003 11:16 |  #4

Because the 10d, the 300d, and all of Canon's digital slr cameras are built like 35 mm slr cameras, the mirror blocks the sensor.

So as Robert said there is no way to get a preview of the shot before the shot is taken.

But you can use the remote trigger software and see the shot right after the shot is taken, without having to download the picture.

I am not sure about the 10d but the remote software comes on the cd with the rest of the software for the 300d.




  
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Dec 11, 2003 12:02 |  #5

You could maybe 'preview' with the viewfinder display that can be fed back to the PC. As to how close this is to the actual shot .....

And take it you mean the camera is wireless connected
to PC ? If so then there is no way currently




  
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Dec 11, 2003 12:22 |  #6

You can do either of two things,..

Exactly as ArthurB says,.. using the remote trigger software.

Or you can just get a PCMCIA CF card reader for the laptop and view tham immediately after taking the picture.

Seems to me that's all you need. Save a lot of hassle of fiddling with USB cables and remote software.

Either way,. the image that the 10D shows in the veiwfinder and on its own built in screen allready has the crop factor you are worried about displayed?

Again,. there is no wireless method available.


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Dec 11, 2003 12:37 |  #7

Preview wouldn't really be possible as such. Well, I haven't tried it but the mirror will be in the way.

Have a go with the Remote Capture software to try it.

As for wireless, you are looking at making a USB connection to your laptop wirelessly. I haven't seen any products that can do this (yet).

A better option is just to have a long cable, but IIRC USB 1.1 is limited to around 3 metres. It's something like that, fairly short, according to the specs.

However, I have heard of people running out to 9 metres from a desktop machine. I guess this is to do with more power being available in a desktop machine.

With the 10D, the USB will not need to be providing power to the camera so your range might improve further.

I would try plugging the standard Canon USB cable into the camera. Then the full size USB connector on the other end into a USB extender cable and then to the laptop. This should give you good distance in the studio setting. Example USB extender cable here (external link)

As with any cables attached to cameras on tripods. Remember the trip hazard. OK, not hazardous to you, but certainly hazardous to the camera. :)

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Dec 11, 2003 12:42 |  #8

fotog wrote:
No, post shutter release. Take the shot and it appears on the laptop. Possible?
thanks Bill

Most definitely possible..

Use Canon's remote capture software that came with your camera.

This will cause the images to download directly to the computer. You don't even need a flash card in place.

Once on the computer, just use an image viewer and view....

There is no wireless way AFAIK..




  
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Dec 11, 2003 13:03 |  #9

The wireless limitation is on the Camera end,.. so wireless is impossible...

USB controllers are "dumb", they are not peer to peer. They can not do anything they were not designed to do without the aid of a PC/CPU/OS, nor can they communicate with eachother,. they need a PC to act as server/. (unlike firewire)

Therefore,. the 10D could not address a wireless USB controller unless you could install a complete OS on the 10D :)


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Dec 11, 2003 16:40 |  #10

Hi CDS,

No, I was thinking more of a PC (Server) to Camera (Client) USB cable that just happens to have a wireless link in the middle of the cable so to speak.

The USB model would still stand only that the two wireless ends of the "cable" would have to pass USB signals properly. It would then still work.

I.e.


USB WiFi USB
PC-------------| - - - - - - - |-----------Camera
A A

Where A is the device to transmit/receive USB signals via WiFi. Basically a peer-to-peer WiFi network. Each A box would need to be powered though, or maybe just the one on the camera side of the link.

There is a device that allows you to run a USB device on the end of 100 foot of CAT 5 so someone must be working on the wireless bridge system, probably for things like USB webcams etc.

Of course, at the moment a long USB cable will do. :)

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Dec 11, 2003 21:47 |  #11

A friend suggested looking into "blue tooth" for a wireless connection from my 10D to my laptop. Just started looking into it. Anyone hear of it working. I have read it will work with cameras to a laptop. If I find out anyrthing more I'll post it here.
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Dec 12, 2003 00:27 |  #12

fotog wrote:
A friend suggested looking into "blue tooth" for a wireless connection from my 10D to my laptop. Just started looking into it. Anyone hear of it working. I have read it will work with cameras to a laptop. If I find out anyrthing more I'll post it here.
Bill


Yes, please keep us in touch. I've looked at this before but was to dumb to figure it out.




  
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