Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Lenses 
Thread started 14 Sep 2006 (Thursday) 05:48
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Do I need my fixed focal lengths if I now have "L" lenses in that range?

 
crsouser
Member
Avatar
212 posts
Joined Jan 2006
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
     
Sep 14, 2006 05:48 |  #1

I am wondering if I have since purchased "L" series lenses that cover the same range as my fixed focal length lenses.. do I still need the fixed focal lengths.

I ask as the thing with "L" is that it is supposed to have Edge-to-Edge IQ that is equal to a fixed focal length.

I admit yes the my fixed focal lengths are still faster than the "L"s, but if IQ is the number one thing and a little speed you are willing to sacrifice.. the question still is.. "Do I need the fixed focal length lenses?"

Have others simplied their gear setup and just gone to "L" lenses?

Christopher


-I enjoy photographing things that move and breath more than things that do not.
5D Mk II, 40D, XT IR, 85mm 1.2 I, 24mm 1.4, 100-400mm 3.5-5.6IS, 70-200 2.8IS, 70-300 DO IS, 16-35 2.8 I, 24-105 4, 50 1.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Gabbana
Senior Member
301 posts
Joined Mar 2006
Location: Arizona
     
Sep 14, 2006 05:51 |  #2

only you can decide what you need to keep. I'm sure it will be hard, but time will tell. Good luck




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SuzyView
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
32,094 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 129
Joined Oct 2005
Location: Northern VA
     
Sep 14, 2006 06:04 |  #3

I have 2 great primes that cover the same as two of my L lenses and I can tell you, they do much different things. If I'm doing formal portraits of any kind and I have more time to spend with the clients, I will use my primes. They are so wonderful. If flexibility is the issue, I will use my L zooms. And of course, the 17-40 is a must fo landscapes, but I would love the 35L sometime. So, keep them! You may never know when you will need just that lens. :)


Suzie - Still Speaking Canonese!
RF6 Mii, 5DIV, SONY a7iii, 7D2, G12, 6 L's & 2 Primes, 25 bags.
My children and grandchildren are the reason, but it's the passion that drives me to get the perfect image of everything.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Padawan ­ Dad
Senior Member
Avatar
908 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jul 2006
Location: Melrose, MA
     
Sep 14, 2006 06:05 |  #4

Personally, I think primes will give you a better image most of the time (Technically.) Maybe not by much, and of course it varies from lens to lens. I am personally not a pixel peeper, so I would just stick to my zooms if I were in your position. Speed, however, is important to me; so having a couple of primes is essential to my collection... next for me: the 24mm 1.4L!!!! Anyone got a few bucks they can give me?


Bill Hicks Photography (external link)

Nikon D700 • 50 ƒ/1.4G • 24-70 ƒ/2.8 • 70-200 ƒ/2.8 VRII SB900  iMac

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SuzyView
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
32,094 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 129
Joined Oct 2005
Location: Northern VA
     
Sep 14, 2006 06:09 |  #5

I would love the L primes some year, but I would probably not use them as much as I use the zooms I have. I think that is the OP's question.


Suzie - Still Speaking Canonese!
RF6 Mii, 5DIV, SONY a7iii, 7D2, G12, 6 L's & 2 Primes, 25 bags.
My children and grandchildren are the reason, but it's the passion that drives me to get the perfect image of everything.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
lensview
Senior Member
Avatar
524 posts
Joined Sep 2006
Location: NY
     
Sep 14, 2006 09:21 |  #6
bannedPermanent ban

Difficult sort of question to answer. Like, should I be selling my Chevy Cavalier since I got Malibu as well ?
One suggestion I can make: keep that 100 f/2.0, if you've got a normally good copy ......IMO, other than the 135L and 85 f/1.8 there are not too many other lenses which can match its performance, L or non L.


Canon SD600
Sandisk 1Mb ExtraIII SD card

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Dorman
Goldmember
Avatar
4,661 posts
Joined Feb 2006
Location: Halifax, NS
     
Sep 14, 2006 09:35 |  #7

Two different tools for different jobs/situations in my opinion. However, if you don't need the speed of the primes and the zooms are delivering the sharpness that satisfies you and you're NOT carrying your primes then dump them and just keep what actually gets used. This goes for L and non-L lenses...



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Double ­ Negative
*sniffles*
Avatar
10,533 posts
Likes: 11
Joined Mar 2006
Location: New York, USA
     
Sep 14, 2006 10:18 |  #8

A prime is almost always sharper than an equivalent zoom, L or not. It's also lighter in weight, brighter in aperture. But you give up the nice thing about zooms - that is, being able to zoom!

Depends on what you shoot and in what lighting conditions, mostly. You don't "need" the equivalent fixed focal length lens.

But having one or two is nice if you prefer ultra-portability, maximum image quality and shoot in low(er) light. You don't always want to carry around a behemoth lens (like when shooting street candids, etc.)


La Vida Leica! (external link) LitPixel Galleries (external link) -- 1V-HS, 1D Mark IIn & 5D Mark IV w/BG-E20
15mm f/2.8, 14mm f/2.8L, 24mm f/1.4L II, 35mm f/1.4L, 50mm f/1.2L, 85mm f/1.2L II, 135mm f/2.0L
16-35mm f/2.8L, 24-70mm f/2.8L, 70-200mm f/2.8L IS, 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS, Extender EF 1.4x II & 2x II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
blue_max
Goldmember
Avatar
2,622 posts
Joined Mar 2005
Location: London UK
     
Sep 14, 2006 10:58 as a reply to  @ Double Negative's post |  #9

Simply, an L zoom is not a replacement for a good quality prime.

My 135L f2 is a discreet, high quality performer. It goes where a 70-200f2.8 IS can't. If you have both and don't use one, then you should sell it. All your lenses should earn their place in your camera bag. If you find it sitting there, it has made it's own decision.

I have owned and sold two excellent lenses. If I find myself with a lens that I never use, I will sell very quickly and buy something I will use.

Currently I have a wide-angle zoom and a mid-range zoom. I also have a mid-range prime and telephoto prime with extenders. That works very well for me.

I do try to not buy more lenses than I can (un)comfortably carry with me on a trip.

Graham


.
Lamb dressed as mutton.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
volleybrad
Senior Member
Avatar
595 posts
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Detroit Area
     
Sep 14, 2006 11:35 |  #10

Set up a typical shooting situation you'd come across. Take photos with both lenses under the exact same conditions.

See which you like better....


Brad

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
peterdoomen
Goldmember
Avatar
1,123 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Lier, Flanders (northern, flemish speaking part of Belgium)
     
Sep 14, 2006 11:57 |  #11

I've got two great zooms and one good zoom, still I find myself to take a lot of my pictures with the L prime. Especially when I need the speed. But of course it depends on the type of pictures you want to take.

Your 70-200s sharpness is on par with many primes. Of course not with real stellar primes like the 200 f/1.8 or the 85 f/1.2 or the 35 f/1.4, but close.

P.


Canon EOS 20D | Canon 70-200 f2.8L IS + Hoya UV Filter | Canon Extender 1.4x | Canon 50 f/1.8 | Canon 85 f/1.2L mk II | Tamron 17-35 f/2.8-f/4| Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 | Tokina 100 f/2.8 macro | Kenko extension tubes | Canon Speedlite 420 EX & Sto-fen Omnibounce| 80GB Flashtrax | Manfrotto Tripod 190 pro B & Joystick 322RC2 | Lowepro Micro Trekker 200
PDFs: Make money with ShutterStock (external link) - Make your own Tabletop Studio (external link)- Glass Buying Guide (external link)
My ShutterStock Gallery (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
lensview
Senior Member
Avatar
524 posts
Joined Sep 2006
Location: NY
     
Sep 14, 2006 12:06 as a reply to  @ peterdoomen's post |  #12
bannedPermanent ban

peterdoomen wrote:
I've got two great zooms and one good zoom, still I find myself to take a lot of my pictures with the L prime. Especially when I need the speed. But of course it depends on the type of pictures you want to take.

Your 70-200s sharpness is on par with many primes. Of course not with real stellar primes like the 200 f/1.8 or the 85 f/1.2 or the 35 f/1.4, but close.

P.

In additiion, not with real "stellar" primes which are not all L and which can be all had for less than $1,000: 50 f/2.5, 60 f/2.8, 85 f/1.8, 100 f.2.0, 100 f/2.8, 135L, 200 f/2.8.
The 70-200's are excellent zooms as zooms go, however, Canon has quite a few primes that will kick their butts in the IQ dept.;)


Canon SD600
Sandisk 1Mb ExtraIII SD card

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
crsouser
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
212 posts
Joined Jan 2006
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
     
Sep 14, 2006 19:16 as a reply to  @ lensview's post |  #13

lensview wrote:
In additiion, not with real "stellar" primes which are not all L and which can be all had for less than $1,000: 50 f/2.5, 60 f/2.8, 85 f/1.8, 100 f.2.0, 100 f/2.8, 135L, 200 f/2.8.
The 70-200's are excellent zooms as zooms go, however, Canon has quite a few primes that will kick their butts in the IQ dept.;)

Thanks everyone for your opinions... that all helped. I actually really love my 100 f2.0 for example Other than it is a bit too much of a zoom for my small space and just got my F2.8 70-200 so haven't had a chance to do a side by side.

My main motivation I guess for the question was really reducing the number of lenses that I don't use as often but not giving up image quality... plus there is a lense or two I want to pick up but need to come up with some cash to fund them.

Christopher


-I enjoy photographing things that move and breath more than things that do not.
5D Mk II, 40D, XT IR, 85mm 1.2 I, 24mm 1.4, 100-400mm 3.5-5.6IS, 70-200 2.8IS, 70-300 DO IS, 16-35 2.8 I, 24-105 4, 50 1.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
liza
Cream of the Crop
11,386 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Feb 2005
Location: Mayberry
     
Sep 14, 2006 21:12 |  #14
bannedPermanent ban

I own both primes and zooms, but prefer primes for their sharpness and IQ. I don't find it particularly inconvenient to use one, since I carry two bodies with me at any given time. If anything, I use primes much more often than zoom lenses.



Elizabeth
Blog
http://www.emc2foto.bl​ogspot.com/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Permagrin
High Priestess of all I survey
Avatar
77,915 posts
Likes: 21
Joined Aug 2006
Location: day dreamin'
     
Sep 14, 2006 21:15 as a reply to  @ liza's post |  #15

They really have such different uses...I have both and for the primes...they are sharper in their mm than any of the L zooms I have in that particular range...I wouldn't part with either if I could help it.


.. It's Permie's world, we just live in it! ~CDS

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,855 views & 0 likes for this thread, 12 members have posted to it.
Do I need my fixed focal lengths if I now have "L" lenses in that range?
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Lenses 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
2809 guests, 182 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.