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Sep 14, 2006 17:16 |  #1

Hello -

I have been asked to shoot groups of up to 20-30 in what could be dimish lighting. I have my 430ex and was contemplating renting a 16-35 (or 24-70) and 5D. What are your oppinions? I might be able to couple the 24-70 with my hope of an imminent purchase...but will that be wide enough on a 5D. The room is not super large, so that's another thing to consider.


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Sep 14, 2006 17:55 |  #2

24 on a 5D would be like the 16 on a 300D. Plenty wide enough. Maybe not fast enough though depending on lighting? A 30mm 1.4 of 35mm 1.4 might fit the bill better. On a 5D that is...


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Sep 14, 2006 17:56 as a reply to  @ Mr. Clean's post |  #3

Mr. Clean wrote:
24 on a 5D would be like the 16 on a 300D. Plenty wide enough. Maybe not fast enough though depending on lighting? A 30mm 1.4 of 35mm 1.4 might fit the bill better. On a 5D that is...

Ok, thanks for the information :)


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Sep 14, 2006 18:24 |  #4
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16-35 on your 5D is the best. :)


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Sep 14, 2006 18:36 |  #5

calgaryphotographer wrote:
Hello -

I have been asked to shoot groups of up to 20-30 in what could be dimish lighting. I have my 430ex and was contemplating renting a 16-35 (or 24-70) and 5D. What are your oppinions? I might be able to couple the 24-70 with my hope of an imminent purchase...but will that be wide enough on a 5D. The room is not super large, so that's another thing to consider.

Beware of perspective distortion which can easily accompany a 24mm on FF or 15mm on APS-C.... If you cannot stand square to the group, those closest to the lens are more accentuated in the photo in their prominence in the shot, so that you can make the fat lady even fatter and the petite gal far away even more petite, so the fat lady looms even larger than she is (and guaranteeing you her wrath!)

I have covered weddings quite well with medium format, using lenses no wider than 28mm (35mm film equivalent), but I will admit that I have not dealt with 30 people in a group! I would suggest having tiers of 10 per tier, to minimize group width


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Sep 14, 2006 19:16 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #6

Wilt wrote:
Beware of perspective distortion which can easily accompany a 24mm on FF or 15mm on APS-C.... If you cannot stand square to the group, those closest to the lens are more accentuated in the photo in their prominence in the shot, so that you can make the fat lady even fatter and the petite gal far away even more petite, so the fat lady looms even larger than she is (and guaranteeing you her wrath!)

I have covered weddings quite well with medium format, using lenses no wider than 28mm (35mm film equivalent), but I will admit that I have not dealt with 30 people in a group! I would suggest having tiers of 10 per tier, to minimize group width

For sure, I'm hopeing to get up to three rows :)


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Sep 14, 2006 19:42 |  #7

The 17-40 is a good lens for this type of shot, as well as many other portrait type shots where shallow dof is not needed or wanted. I use it for my wedding formals regulalry. The best way to shoot a larger group, usually, is from above and so as not to spread the group too far across the frame...diamond or pyramid arrangements are favored.

Depnding on conditions, I think I would be more concerend about the suitability of the 430EX. Best case,with flash units I usually use a 550 and 580 on stands with umbrellaseach illuminatiing half the group.

Anyway, you'll do your best...



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